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I believe to this day that he bribed the IQ test (lemmy.world)
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

if Musk's got a high intellect-quotient, that's fine..

What does it measure?

A very-specific subset of intelligences, crafted to leave-out female relational-intelligences, musical-intelligence, health-intelligence, among other ones..

https://www.amazon.com/Seven-Kinds-Smart-Identifying-Intelligences/dp/0452281377/

identifies 9 intelligences, & I defy most Mensa-types to consistently score high on those other ones..

It is the IQ lobby which won't tolerate the other-intelligences to be counted equally-valid, right?

With reason: they aren't good at those intelligences.

( hint: musical-intelligence includes multiple sub-intelligences, including, but not limited-to..

  • rhythm
  • harmony
  • melody
  • improv/jazz
  • composition
  • polyrhythm
  • etc..

A person can have a "musical intelligence" of whatever, & be brilliant in rhythm, but lousy in harmony, xor vice versa.

Too-coarse-granularity's consistently a problem with these damn measures : )

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 week ago (3 children)

the only thing it measures is how good you are at taking an IQ test

The axis need to be swapped.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

the punchline is that if you pay for the iq test you are instantly considered stupid and if you bribe the iq test you get a high score. everyone in between won't pay for an iq test

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The moment you pay for an IQ test - you failed it

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I think the same thing applies to Mensa. If you’re paying to join the “smart people club”, how smart are you really?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

“I don’t want to belong to any club that would accept me as one of its members.”
— Groucho

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My local Mensa hosts a lot of fun events, the cost is minimal, and it replaces a social vacuum left by religious activities for me. A wide variety of people, most very nice, almost all pretty interesting. Also a pretty insular group of folks that doesn’t really ruffle any feathers, so I’ve always been a little unsure why Mensa gets such hate online.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because it gives off a bit of an elitist vibe to require an IQ test for entry.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Don’t most special interest clubs have some sort of barrier to entry? Is Mensa different because IQ tests are a touchy subject that has been used incorrectly by bad actors? I can promise you that there is no illusion of superiority amongst the mensans I’ve met, we’re all pretty on board with “we’re just good at the things that IQ tests measure” and if anything it just helps a lot of us apply some additional context and understanding to oftentimes difficult childhood memories. Just my two cents from the other side!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

tbf, i paid for an IQ test because i needed the results to prove i'm capable of understanding my own gender in court. Pretty whack but i heard recently the laws in my country changed so i hope younger trans people won't have to go through that humiliation

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Yup. You can practice for it like any other test. There's no way to score human intelligence, except anyone who talks about having high IQ, then you know they are unintelligent.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

IQ also has other use cases

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Anyone that cares about an IQ result is a permanent clown that deserves to be laughed at until they're dust

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

When I was a kid I took a two-page IQ test in a Reader's Digest and I got 125. It meant a lot to me.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Me too! I got 128 and it defined me for a long time. I'm more iq'd than you. Yesss, here's my time to shine again, finally

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As someone with a higher and more officialler result than you IDIOTS I can assure you that I am also an idiot.

[–] Big_Boss_77 2 points 1 week ago

We're all idiots on this blessed day

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Same! I still have the certificate!

(Although I would have got 129 if my sister, who couldn't spell, kept insisting that "than" is spelt "then" and wouldn't stop bugging me throughout the whole test until I changed it, even though I knew she was wrong. Yes I am still bitter about it today.)

I lack real world intelligence, so bog all use that test was.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I find it hard to believe someone can recognize patterns well enough to do well on an IQ test could also be so stupid as to not realize everyone hates him and just wants his money.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

I mean for what its worth emotional intelligence (recognizing everyone hates you and just wants your money) is a whole different thing. That said, I'm pretty sure he's just an idiot in general too. Maybe smarter than the average person, but certainly not three standard deviations smarter.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

I wouldn't be surprised if he's actually just kind of dumb, but humans are really bad at recognizing patterns relating to ourselves. There's a reason therapists see other therapists, for example.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's very likely, tho honestly even if he had an iq of 300 i wouldn't care if things he says will remain bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

And who's saying he's got a high IQ? Presumably it's just him saying he does, and he lies about everything else.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

He's also "good at Diablo" or whatever it was. And "really smart about business." And "really smart about rockets." And blah blah blah. It's all bullshit. Just listen to him. He can barely form coherent sentences.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I bet his test results are a different scale, like imperial, but converted to normal metric standards he scores below average. Everything he says and does shows he really wants people to believe he's smart and he's willing to lie as much as needed to make people believe him, but he never actually shows anything of actual intelligence. On the contrary really.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

Musk never outgrew 8th grade.

He's still in there, day in and day out, doing everything he can think of to try to get the other kids to think he's cool, and still just making himself look like that much more of a creepy, pathetic douchebag.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

My IQ test done through school came back with super high results. I’m 33 and work part time at a bakery while on my fourth year of a two year program. It doesn’t fucking matter.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

I took a IQ test online it said I Genius.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Has anyone here actually had a real IQ test? They’re administered by psychologists and it takes like 2-3 days of different tests. No one doing any online test is doing a real IQ test. Not that they’re the end all be all for intelligence anyways.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I took one as a kid, my parents had all of us tested. I was always told I was smart but they never told me the number. Just that "you can do anything you put your mind to". I literally didn't know I was taking an IQ test and have no memories of what it was like other than the person doing the test was a lady and she had me doing something with wooden blocks. This was all as a prerequisite to get into some gifted program. They lost my results for a bit so I didn't get in until second grade (USA) so it had to be some time in first grade or before. I won't spell out my life story here, so I'll stop there. Anyway yeah that was my experience with it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Similar to mine! School psychologist with blocks, asking me about fluid ounces, and then about how similar or different things were (ended at time and space). Didn’t really feel like a test but I was in Grade 5.

My parents thought I was cognitively challenged so they had the test administered (I got an F in math in grade 4). Turns out I’m just ADHD.