Yes. Go primary Chuck out of office and make somebody with a fucking spine the minority leader.
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And DNC says it's time to just be turtles.
Please let dnc finally clean house
The Dems don't just need "brawlers" but they also need people willing to get dirty. If you know pro wrestling, Eddie Guerrero at one time had a gimmick that included the slogan "I lie, I cheat, I steal" that is the mindset democratic operatives have to get into and party members have to at least accept, if they want any chance of beating the GOP.
The Dems don't seem to understand that there is no bottom for how low the GOP will go, and that means they are going to have to get dirty and do and say things that will haunt them, but it will be for the good of the entire country and if they truly care about democracy and this country they will fall on that sword and dive head first into that mud pit.
*Sorry for the run on's and ranting.... ADHD stream of consciousness.
We need to elect communists and socialists from 1910 you know the ones world governments were so goddamn scared of they started multiple wars to try to eradicate the ideal as a whole. Didn't work but they certainly tried anyway.
There's a saying that "you can't shoot an idea."
Why don’t we just call a new party the free beers during football party and just snatch up all these idiots real quick to win. We win then we give some free beers out the first game then blame the right for making it illegal because they think beer is socialist so no one can have any for free to keep winning. Over and over. Meanwhile we get some healthcare and college.
You don’t have to thank me for my genius steal it and claim it was yours to begin with. You’re welcome.
This is such a great idea that I came up. Thank you, me. 😃
New party from scratch would be easier than turning this ugly ship around.
And she's fucking right.
The boomers except for Bernie have got to go. (which does not include Nancy, she's fucking silent generation)
We need ACTUAL young blood, not 74-years-young.
Bernie is so old that he’s a Silent Generation and not even a Boomer, however Bernie has more energy and larger backbone than most Democrats ever have had.
Yes, those things are true. And he's the exception.
Honestly I think Bernie should go too. He deserves a good retirement after a long career of solid work. We need people in office who can run the show for the next thirty years.
The Democratic Party has been saying Bernie is too old for over 10 years and yet he’s still has more energy & competency than 95% of the lot. He absolutely deserves a good retirement but he’ll never get that.
He's doing a great job. When I say Pelosi and Schumer should go, it's because they're cowards at best and traitors at worst and they should be replaced by young people who are...not those things. When I say Sanders should go, it's because he's done a great job, he deserves a vacation and the opportunity to write his memoirs, and there should be someone younger at the ready to take the mantle.
he's done a great job, he deserves a vacation and the opportunity to write his memoirs
There's no vacation/retirement from social justice. All the things that riled you up and made you fight back against the ownership class are going to go on as they were. You can't just sit back and relax. Do I think he deserves some peace and quiet? Of course. Is he going to get any? Sadly, I don't believe so. He's been fighting the good fight his entire life...
there should be someone younger at the ready to take the mantle.
...and that includes leading by example. Him stepping back doesn't mean we get a younger Bernie as a replacement. He's been doing this long enough that there should be plenty of younger Bernies, not even waiting in the wings, but in active government. But there aren't. The closest we got is AOC. And we could use a few dozen like her.
Bernie isn't holding anyone back. It would be odd if he was. When he goes, he's likely to be replaced by a milquetoast neolib at best.
Bernie isn't holding anyone back. It would be odd if he was. When he goes, he's likely to be replaced by a milquetoast neolib at best.
And you don't think that's a bit of a failure on Bernie's part? He's been in office since the beginning of time and had a national progressive leadership profile for a decade and hasn't been able to find a successor in Vermont to groom and grow in all that time?
People in America don't recognize the house is on fire until it's in ashes. Citizen's United was an absolutely debilitating decision, and politicians on both sides of the aisle didn't care because they are happy working for the oligarchs as long as they get a taste of the riches and the power. The media turned a blind eye because they're in the same pockets.
Yes he failed to build a sustained movement of what was essentially centrist politics a century ago, but he failed mostly because the cultural, media, and political apparatus is full of people that either trash binned his message entirely or painted him as some kind of alarmist, or extremist.
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He deserves it, but he is staying alive by sheer force of patriotism and duty. I don't think he knows how or wants to retire. Not while things are still so fucked up
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Nancy Pelosi does need to retire but she's better than Chuck "Folding Chair" Schumer.
Would you rather have a 3 ton or a 4 ton elephant standing on your head?
IOW, it doesn't matter whose worse, they BOTH need to go.
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Either this or we seriously need to consider making anew 3rd party.
The Dems don't have to reinvent themselves, and they don't have to lie, cheat, steal, commit treason, and be pedophiles to beat the MAGANazis, they just have to play HARD BALL, and make the MAGANazis fight for every single inch of ground.
Yes, exactly this! This is all we ask for have a backbone, have a voice, and stand up.
Many people, especially MAGA Nazis have been misreadinng the latest polls that show dissatisfaction with the Democrats. They think that just because we're pissed at Democrats, we must be supporting MAGAs, and nothing could be further from the truth.
The real answer is that people are pissed at Democrats for decades of being weak, spineless weenies, to the point where the worst possible version of the Republican party, the MAGA Nazis, were finally able to take over our country. But just because people are angry at Dems, doesnt mean they have accepted MAGA Nazism. They just want the Dems to finally grow spines and giant brass balls and FIGHT BACK!
But let the MAGA morons believe they are attracting the Dems to their side. I am seeing signs that some Dems are acting stronger, others will follow, and soon the polls will start rising, and then MAGAWorld will start to panic. Thats when they may get squirelly and really start trouble.
Stay Alert, America needs more Lerts.
Agreed 100%
I want AOC, Warren, Jasmine Crockett, and Buttigeg. They have been the only politicians in rank that I've felt have been representing. And Walz, too.
Don't forget Bernie, he's been going around the country holding how to fight the oligarchy rallies
Yeah 😢 It's sad that an 83 year old is one of our strongest fighters. I believe he is also not seeking reelection.
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Elizabeth Warren talks a big game, but she shrivels under pressure. I'd love her if she were half the person she claims to be.
Honestly, I'll take that any day of the week. It's far better than someone like Newsom who is actively courting right wing figureheads so he can agree with them about how bad progressives are.
The party would be so much better if we could get rid of the members that hate progressives.
I would like for them to split off from the party and start a new movement dedicated to fighting for the people. They have the influence to start a way stronger 3rd party than modern is politics has ever seen.
At bare minimum, they should band together as a new sect of the Democratic Party and establish that their ring of the party advocates for people instead of oligarchs.
Exactly this. When the GOP had similar problems, they sparked the "Tea Party" that ended up taking over the party.
We need a "Guillotine Party" to do the same for the Democrats.
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They need to do a progressive takeover of the democratic party. Just like how the MAGA extremists took over the republic party
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Genuine question to our American friends:
How come Bernie, AOC, Crockett etc. don't start their own party? They can pledge to vote with the dems where it makes sense and they have enough political capital to continue getting elected. Seems like an ideal time to create a 3rd (actual alternative) party, no?
It might force the republicans to create an alt right and centre right party too which I feel would erode some of the alt right because from experience most Americans are not that alt right.
Our first past the post +presidential election system means that a third party, particularly a splinter third party will just pull votes from the not as terrible party, strengthening the opposition parties electoral strength. Funding third parties in close races to split the opposition has been a strategy of both Republicans and Democrats.
That's not quite the reason. The system is setup to vote on individuals. The idea of voting for party is propaganda from the parties. Third party candidates in the modern system tend to fare poorly because the districts have been made unmanageably large and require multi million dollar advertising budgets. Which is money that comes from the party and party endorsed fundraising.
Because it leaves open the potential for a Democrat v. Republican v. New Party election (at whatever level, not just presidency) and that's likely to improve Republican chances. Where the progressive candidates are strong it's better for them to beat the centrist in a one on one then take on the Republican with their center-left voters. Where they're weak the most a three way contest does is maybe make the right win over the center.
There are many many races without real Republican challengers where a new party could challenge moderate Democrats from the left, but in those situations the Democratic primary is the real vote and you might as well just win there.
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A couple reasons.
Bernie and the Democrats are going to align 90% of the time (just like with Manchin on the other end of the spectrum). Basically, the other party is anti-America. So being pro-America makes you a de facto Democrat.
Since we don't have Ranked Choice Voting or any other system that is conducive to multiple parties, primaries allow directionally aligned candidates to decide who is most popular to avoid splitting the vote. This isn't necessary if a candidate has enough support for it to not matter. (Bernie is an independent in congress, but he ran as a Democrat in his presidential runs.)
State laws make ballot access difficult. Every state has its own rules and most of them are meant to exclude 3rd parties. Neither Dems nor MAGAts like competition.
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Elect me to the House or Congress and I will personally throw fists at any GOP aligned member around me.
My SO and I have joked that while I could never win a local election, if I ran, I might just be able to get within punching range of our shitty representative.
this photo makes it look like there's a comic book effect emphasizing her pointing.
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