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Recording of Danielle Smith saying she tried to work with American officials to get Pierre elected (sh.itjust.works)
submitted 5 days ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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Archive link to Breitbart article: https://archive.is/UQuX1

Recording link of the quote there's also a link in the article but it goes to Breitbart Soundcloud account :

“Before the tariff war, I would say yes. I mean, Pierre Poilievre is the name of the Conservative Party leader, and he was miles ahead of Justin Trudeau. But because of what we see as unjust and unfair tariffs, it’s actually caused an increase in the support for the liberals,” Smith responded. “And so that’s what I fear, is that the longer this dispute goes on, politicians posture, and it seems to be benefiting the Liberals right now. So I would hope that we could put things on pause is what I’ve told administration officials. Let’s just put things on pause so we can get through an election.”

Pierre would bring would be very much in sync with, I think…the new direction in America,

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Here (https://www.elections.ab.ca/recall-initiative/recall/) is everything you need to know for how to kickoff a recall of Danielle Smith in her provincial riding (aka electoral division). It doesn't guarantee she'll go away, but increases the odds greatly, and sends a clear message from her Alberta base to the UCP and the rest of Canada.

She holds the seat for the electoral division of Brooks-Medicine Hat. The petition for recall can be started by someone who lives there, whether they voted or not, with $500 and 200 words explaining why, then they need to gather physical (not digital) signatures of 40% of the electors in that riding, which is 13,838 signatures for Brooks-Medicine Hat. The population of Medicine Hat alone is north of 60k.

There are currently no recall petitions.

Danielle Smith needs to GO and we Albertans need to send that message.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

She won her election with 6,923 votes, out of 12,695. You'd need to get the physical signature of more people than the amount who could be bothered to go and vote.

That recall legislation was such bullshit by requiring the physical signatures of 40% of the electors, making is pretty much unsusable.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

If people are angry enough it can work. The situation today is an entirely different than a typical provincial election where apathy is engrained in so many.

Collecting enough signatures isn't all up to the person who kicks off the recall petition; canvassers register and join in on collecting signatures. And they don't have to go door to door. If you have the permission of your employer, or a business, or central location you can set up canvasses there an let people know times and places to show up to sign. Not easy, but possible if people care enough.

The obvious hoops that have been set up to prevent a recall from being straight forward suck, but we still have a mechanism to do it. If a recall could succeed despite the hoops that would be extremely motivating to the rest of the province and country.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

Even if the petition falls short of the 40% it's a strong message. Absolutely worth doing regardless of the outcome.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Well, I hope this quote is spread far and wide in all channels.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Usually takes a week-10 days for mainstream media to either use it, or discarde it.

Gotta keep reminding them. Eventually they may pick it up.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Usually takes a week-10 days for mainstream media to either use it, or discarde it.

This article is dated March 8. They have discarded it.

It needs to be shouted loud and clear to every Canadian to hear.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

They haven’t discarded it; it started getting airtime today.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

Its spreading. From today: https://www.ctvnews.ca/calgary/article/lets-just-put-things-on-pause-alberta-premier-under-fire-for-breitbart-interview/

and Carney has weighed in on it as well, here's a Global News snippet from 40 minutes ago:

https://youtu.be/Y9qI_-rkzD0 @1:06

[–] [email protected] 52 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Wow! They're openly admitting that their administration would be the same as Trump's?! Isn't that exactly why they're turning away from you and towards the liberals?!

This is basically them begging the US to steal the election for them so that they can be best buddies with trump. They're not even trying to appeal to the electorate.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

It could and maybe should be construed as manipulating a foreign nation into treating us more favorably, rather than assuming she's telling U.S. reps the truth. But I don't mean to say I think it's any less damning. It still flirts with soliciting foreign interference in our elections. And it still acknowledges the alignment in values Conservatives are trying to deny even though we can all see it plain as day.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 5 days ago

Completely insane and as usual what Conservatives have to say about Conservatives is more damning than anything.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This makes me unreasonably angry.

Any assumption of good faith discussions with her or her supporters should be abandoned. In my mind this cements them as outright traitors. We need to kick American oil interests out of our country, immediately. This is what they have wrought. I don't give a dry fuck what Smith, the UCP and all the other Alberta separatists think of this proposal. They should be considered criminals and treated accordingly.

Frankly the Conservatives had better come out strong against this, or they will forever be the party of treason to their country. This is inexcusable. I don't care what you think about policy...if you believe this is okay, you can shut the fuck up about what you think is good for the country because you have no interest in the country itself.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago

Back in the day a traitor got firing sqaud on the spot....

Now they get 20-40% of domestic population support the harder they shill a foreign threat actor

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That maybe is an unreasonable amount of anger. Based on the headline I honestly expected something a little more traitorous, but this is pretty much standard fare for any of the Oil & Gas Parties. American-aligned or not, it's kind of amazing to me how normalized it is to still have politicians that effectively represent only that industry.

Even from a conservative, deeply neoliberal perspective that stopped making any sense a quarter century ago.

Then again, selling out a nation for an industry shouldn't really inspire any less anger than doing it for another nation.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

You are coming from a genuine place, so I'm going to assume we're discussing in good faith.

With respect, I think you should be less apologetic and perhaps a bit more angry. I say this because this situation goes rather beyond just advocating for a single industry to the detriment of the electorate, as blatantly corrupt as that itself is. This is about a Premier who is illegally representing Canada to a state actor who is currently in borderline hostile and unprecedented negotiations with us, and to whom the Premier is collaborating on hostile economic action for the purposes of partisan political gain. And this ignores the threats to national sovereignty from a hostile state actor, and the very clear and repeated actions by the Premier, her party and her supporters to make it clear that they support separatist sentiments, up to and including threatening a national unity crisis if their ridiculous self serving demands are not met. A list of demands, I might add, that was forced on the PM of Canada, without any equivalent list of demands given to the hostile state actor, where it rightfully should have been.

She didn't even ask for no tariffs. She said pause them until after the election, so the guy she wants to win can get in and "align with their directions".

This is out and out treason, or at least illegal under the elections act and/or criminal code and people need to stop making excuses about it and treat it as what it is. Refusing to prosecute this will bring us down the same road as the Americans when they refused to prosecute Trump for his blatant insurrection and attempts to subvert democracy.

What Smith is doing cannot be allowed to be precedent.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

I think I really only completely responded to half of your critique previously, so let me fix that now. I stand by carefully restricting myself to technically and precisely accurate facts, as much as I am able. But that's responding to how you expounded your point rather than the point itself.

You say I should be less apologetic, and if by that you meant my tone rather than the substance of my perspective, I think you're right. On retrospect, the dismissive vitriol that inspired my comment really didn't come through clearly at all.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Perhaps I shouldn't have opened the comment so provocatively. You can see I concluded it in a manner that contradicts the opening. So first off, I'm mad as hell. But I never want to let that control my actions or cloud my judgement -- and correctness matters, deeply. Standing up for what's right is best served by maintaining unimpeachable honesty.

I'm plenty furious at Smith over this and so many other things. I believe she's also associated with the hate group that tried to manipulate New Brunswick's recent election. None of my anger requires her actions to qualify as treason, and good thing because as (very narrowly) defined in our laws it simply isn't. I don't even know yet if anything she's done is actually illegal. And let me assure you, I want to say some of these things are. The best I can do is say that at least some of the things we already explicitly know should be, and that if they aren't then patching our laws around foreign collaboration should be a top priority.

Her list of demands is also pretty disgusting to the rest of the nation, and though I think she means to appeal to Albertans, I think even the majority of them ultimately won't even consider following down that path. I also think with that specifically our emotional response is part of the plan. She has potentially criminal charges breathing down her neck related to medical procurement, and now on top of that got caught implicitly inviting foreign interference. Her every action seems inspired by the Dumpster's playbook, and that includes rage-baiting as a distraction; it's a way to control the narrative.

…this situation goes rather beyond just advocating for a single industry to the detriment of the electorate, as blatantly corrupt as that itself is.

See, I actually don't think even treason against a nation is worse than treason against humanity. I love my country, but I literally cannot survive without my planet. And in this specific case it's not just selling some people out to a corrupt industry -- it's helping that industry make this entire planet less livable for everyone. There's even some degree of success in that endeavor that could prematurely end the human race.

You are right that her actions cannot be allowed to set precedent. Such inaction will be as disastrous here as normalizing Dumpster's behavior has been in the U.S. When I heard about how Luigi did his thing, I immediately let out an involuntary fist pump and verbal cheer. I was unreservedly elated, because of the precedent. I felt nothing but pure joy at seeing demonstration that there was a level of evil not even the law could protect.

In Alberta, the law has not failed us -- yet.

Are you sure I'm not mad enough?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 days ago

Holy shit. She literally said Poilievre would be just like Trump. How was this not a bigger deal when she said it?

“So I would think that there’d be, there’s probably still always going to be areas that are skirmishes or disputes about particular industries when it comes to the border, but I would say, on balance, the perspective that Pierre would bring would be very much in sync with, I think…the new direction in America,” she added. “And I think we’d have a really great relationship for the period of time they’re both in.”

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That should be a surprise to no canadian alberta was always the land of conspiracy and maga-like idea

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Alabamerta.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Alaberta

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

North Texas

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Alv (in spanish)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Hellberta ... like Hellabama, but Canadian.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 days ago

"An emergency happened and Pierre changed nothing about his plans just continued bashing the other candidates and now less people like him, this is so unfair" Danielle Smith

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This is a crime right?

“Oh, please interfere with our election so the side you like can win”

What the fuck is that? I’m so tired of the kid gloves.

Alberta recall this moron so we can get back to defending Canada.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Here's the complaint form for the Commissioner of Canada Elections, there's a option for foreign interference.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago (2 children)

If the NDP plays this right and doesn’t get too vocal too soon, they might have a shot at disturbing enough shit when the time is right. My god I hope they can get properly organized and do this right.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

No one is voting NDP unless they want the Libs to have a weak government. We need to present a unified front right now. I don't like majority governments for Canada, but now is not the time to split the vote and present a weak mandate to Murcan elites.

I'm hoping for a Liberal majority this time around so we can more quickly respond to the shitshow down south.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No, we don't and have never needed a majority government. A coalition of LPC, NDP, and BQ would be able to nimbly respond to American threats (because we're all in agreement on that) while preventing a further slide into neoliberalism in the housing market.

If the Liberals gain a majority government and don't hard pivot away from neoliberalism the CPC will be an insurmountable threat next election.

The NDP and BQ are in strong alignment in opposing American expansionism. We can do better than a Liberal majority.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

I don’t agree because Monsieur Trompf is our greatest source of threat right now, and presenting him with a coalition of the willing instead of a strong leader is a mistake.

IMHO, of course.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I apologize. I wasn’t clear with my post.

I’m talking about the provincial NDP in regards to their strategy for our provincial election to get this flaming cunt out of office.

Federally, which I rarely ever vote in cause ‘Berta, I’ll be holding my nose and voting Liberal.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

As another Albertan I've voted in every election I could have despite knowing that the CPC candidate is going to win. It's unlikely, but I could be surprised one day.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

I think that's extremely reasonable. I'd love to have MMR or another form of PR but sadly we do not have that. It's extremely reasonable to vote strategically to keep the CPC out of power. I live in BC and my district is competitive for the LPC and NDP so I'm sure as fuck not voting LPC... but if I were in the interior I'd definitely vote for whoever had more momentum to beat the CPC candidate.

On that note... this is a time to make your voice heard advocating for voting reform to make sure the CPC never threaten a national victory without seriously reforming their platform.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Thanks for clarifying, and yea, we could do with more NDP seats. I wish we had proportional representation so everyone got a fair shake.

We do need to make it a priority to get rid of Smith first. Provincially, I also vote NDP and we need to bring em back for more than just one term. They were great for Alberta!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think you mean Alberta NDP. People maybe confused ( or I am ).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yes in this post I was referring to the provincial party. The article is about the provincial premier after all.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago

"Russia, if you're listening, ..."

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

She's a traitorous bitch, sure. But let's be honest; in the current state of the world, getting a Trump endoresment for Poppinfresh is like announcing he's been found out to be murdering orphans.

People knowing that Trump is on his side is the last thing that PP needs. Smith asking the Trump administration to help out because Poppinfresh's views align with his is such a terrible fucking strategy it's hilarious.

She's under the deluded bubble that every conservative is just as stupid as Alberta/Saskatchewan Conservatives. They're not. Never have been. There's a massive difference between "sell out to oil" conservatives from the prairies and "sell out to big business in general" conservatives from Ontario. Ontario conservatives will take an endorsement from Trump and tell Poppinfresh to get fucked because they hate Trump as much as any other party.

There is one small group of uneducated, inbred, coal-rolling conservatives who think that a Trump style government would be a good thing. And they are far less popular that Smith realizes from her cow-shit castle in Alberta.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

But let's be honest; in the current state of the world, getting a Trump endoresment for Poppinfresh is like announcing he's been found out to be murdering orphans.

Thus, Mr Trump endorsing Mark recently. They told him to do that so Mark's polling numbers would go down.

..and it has to be Mr Trump's handlers and not the commander in cheese as he'd never admit his endorsement was a toxic career-limiter, that he's the dog ya lie down with and get fleas.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 days ago (1 children)

She did the same thing with Rustad, She was worried that he wouldn’t win due to not having enough campaign funds and social media followers.

The Alberta government literally spent taxpayer money on sketchy groups to promote the BC Conservatives. They also interfered with Nanaimo’s plan to ban gas hookups.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago

The Christian right-wing group that spent a ton of money blasting New Brunswickers with anti-trans hate speech to influence our last election was based in Alberta. It was so disgusting people wanted Canada Post to refuse their business.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

I've never been a huge nationalist or anything but damn... Lately with the threats to Canada by MAGA, I just wanna tear down anyone that wants to push our country to become part of that failed state. I have no previous frame of reference in my 40+ years.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

Pp goes to white house, and trump says,"pp is such a great rat. If he wins there will be no need for 51st state, and we will love canada again"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

https://www.thebeaverton.com/2025/03/inside-danielle-smiths-list-of-demands-to-mark-carney/