Oh, shit, so he for sure is planning to invade Europe, then.
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Next will be Moldova, then the Baltics.
Moldova seems a most likely target, indeed, however, I don't know how could Russia logistically pull that off. Unless Trump makes Ukraine capitulate and disarm which is not unlikely at this point. Baltics are a different story as they are full NATO members.
It's not that he wouldn't like to, but how could he is another story.
Trump has already said the EU was made to harm America. Trump also dislikes NATO. So pretty sure he'd have little issue with it. Probably more depends on how long it takes Putin to get to Western Europe and how robust they, Western Europe, can make their MIC between now and then.
There are all sorts of possibilities between now and then so no telling how it all plays out.
The idea that Russia, a country with a GDP the size of the Benelux, could take on an economic block comparable in size to China, is simply ridiculous.
Russia hasn’t even been able to take down Ukraine, how could it ever be able to take down the entire EU?
Piece by piece, always both saying that those bits had always been Russian and that the surrounding nations have nothing to worry about.
That’s a lot of pieces ’till Western Europe, which was the scenario I was responding to. And, while I have very little faith in our politicians, they’re not complete imbeciles. An attack on an EU country will certainly lead to an even stronger push towards unification than is the case now already, with just threatening words (from Trump, though - not Putin).
Well, when the US puts its war machine behind the venture…
The scenario I was responding to implied the US would wait and see „how long it takes Putin to get to Western Europe”, at least that’s how I read it.
And the answer is: he wouldn’t ever reach Western Europe. Not in a million years. It’s simply fantasy.
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They could Ribbentrop-Molotov Europe with the US and China I guess
In high-stakes meeting, Russia tells U.S. it isn't planning to invade Ukraine
January 10, 20225:12 AM ET
He's either a lying piece of shit or a completely fucking clueless idiot.
I don’t think that those are mutually exclusive options.
Fair enough.
"Russia will leave Ukraine alone if it gives up all Nuclear arms."
"Russia only wants to lease the harbor of Crimea 'till about 2042."
"Russia has no soldiers in Ukraine Donbas or Crimea regions, these Russian Veterans are on holiday, can't you see that they wear unmarked uniforms?."
"Russia did not shoot down Malaysian Air MH17, it is unknown why that specific mobile missile launcher was seen driving from Russia into Ukraine and back again after firing."
"Russia started only a police action inside Ukraine to take out certain elements, should take about 3 days."
"Russia is Russia, Ukraine never existed and has no right to now."
"Russia is not at war in Ukraine, it is Russia who was attacked."
"Russia does not want parts of Europe, the people of East Germany, Hungary, Romania, Czechoslovakia live in happy unison under the Warsaw pact and mother Russia's bosom."
"Trump and Musk will leave social security alone, privatising it is a ridiculous notion."
"Trump is a president of law and order and respects the judicial branch."
Oh wait, how did comrade Krasnov get mixed in with this....
"no intention of invading all of Europe" means: They intend to invade at least some parts of Europe.
The whole REAL reason that Trump wants to possess both Canada & Greenland is so that between Trump & Putin, in a pincer,
.. they can DESTROY Europe's capacity to compete against them,
& then they get to be the only "kings" left in the West, carving-up all who they want..
So, some of Europe for Trump, some of Europe for Putin.
See?
They spoke factual truth .. !
_ /\ _
The President should walk among the people without any security, because most of the people don't want to kill him. So he should test that statement openly and freely, see what happens.
Oh fuck, Putin is definitely planning to invade all of Europe...
Just a little bit of Europe then?
just the tip
Well it's not Europe you see it's temporarily occupied parts of Russia, historically it belongs to Russia so really they're just taking it back.
Same argument that China and Israel are using to annex Taiwan and Palestine.
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Because 99% is still less than “all of Europe”, so…
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Neat.
Peace in our time.
Just make sure it’s a peace that doesn’t allow for further aggression.
As sure as Neville Chamberlain was when he said it.
So they are working on a new edition of the Molotow-Ribbentrop-Pact, but with the US as Germany and Europe as Poland this time?
And so we're working on our own version of a Molotov something
Not planning. Already planned.
Great. So he wouldn't mind of the EU rearms its defensive capabilities a bit.
It will be a liberation, not an invasion. And anyway, not all of Europe, you can keep Portugal.
Yeah, liberation from freedom.
Freeing souls from bodies,
Letting spirits fly,
Freedom from life.
#1 liberators in the world,
Kill as well as ice is cold.
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You can trust that Steve Witkoff guy. He is known for striking ceasefire deals and holding violators to account.
Of course Putin, with Krasnov's help, isn't "planning" to invade Europe. It will just fall under his rule after he destabilizes it.
"I take him at his word in this sense"
That's the problem right there. Dope. His word is worth less than the air used to create it. His MO is literally to lull people into a false sense of security then rob or kill them.
Stupid Orange Grifter & Rube Believes the Russian Psychopath's Stupid Lie
FTFY
Putin's favorite modern Russian Political Philosopher has written about Russia extending from Vladivostok to Lisbon and this has been repeated by various Russia politicians.
No doubt there will be some parts of Europe that would not be worth it for Russia even if they could invade them.
The thing protecting the rest of Europe from Putin's ambitions is Russia's military incompetence, Ukranian military competence, invetiveness and even their lives, and the superiority of European military hardware versus Russian hardware and the latter is severelly hindered by under investment and low levels of production.
So just everything that used to be under the Soviet sphere of influence then? Maybe the Sudetenland, as a treat.
I think Tsar Putin wants the Russian Empire, not the USSR.
(Thanks Alamy!)
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So just Poland, Finland, Sweden, Denmark and Norway then. Those countries better EU up, and soon!
Woah woah woah. Moldova first. They've already got a start on that one.
There's a historical precedent that Poland be invaded first, 'officially'.
Because if history has taught us anything, if we keep believing history won't repeat itself, it does.
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...yet
I’m not sure Russia could conquer any reasonably-sized country at this point. Ukraine’s tenacity, resourcefulness, & drones plus western weapons has basically ensured that no matter what concessions Russia “wins,” it’ll be a Pyrrhic victory. It’ll probably take them a decade just to get back to where they were prior to the invasion.
According to independent estimates (that I just googled but seem fairly consistent across different sources from different countries), Russia has had almost 1,000,000 casualties and lost over 10,000 tanks. They’ve even lost a few T-54/55 tanks, which were designed in the 1950’s and stopped being produced in 1981. One report even said they were taking tanks out of museums and putting them back into service. (I couldn’t verify that but it’s probably not a good sign that any 40+ year-old tanks have been spotted on the battlefield.)
At this point, I’m less worried about Russia attacking an EU/NATO country than I am about Russia collapsing and all the regional instability that would follow.
Iceland looked pleased.
Get ready
Marvel at the social media influencer's bullshit strategy: exagerate your opponents argument to the point that you can ridicule it as nonsensical.
Also: sure. If Putin said it it must be true. 😐
Oh ok, well that’s good enough for me.
/s in case that’s not obvious.
Russia stretched so thin right now that they couldn’t even afford a scrap outside a bar.
I mean sure Russia alone is. But Russia owns the US, so I think its resources are pretty huge.
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