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[–] [email protected] 128 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Ah yes. "Muted".

If you should be aware of anything, it should be that if you have an Internet connected microphone the only way to truly know it's muted is to remove it from power.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yep, was gonna post this.

Good luck, this hospital's IT department, good fucking luck.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Some of them have hardware switches

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

but that could simply be wired to an LED and nothing else

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

By that logic these devices can have internal batteries too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And ones without internet can have secret antennas

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

These companies don't even have to go to that much trouble, since people seem to be just fine connecting everything to the internet willingly.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This. They don't give a shit about the tiny, infinitesimal percentage of people like me and my fellow privacy-conscious lemmings that understand what's going on, care about it, and refuse to participate.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is why regulations to reign in corporate bullshit exist, expecting the average person to have even the faintest idea why this is important isn't reasonable.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The first-gen echo devices at least actually had a board that listened for the activation word only that then powered on the main device. It's why you couldn't name them whatever you wanted, but had to choose between "Echo", "Alexa", "Amazon", or "Computer."

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Preferably, by throwing it out a 6th-floor window

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[–] [email protected] 111 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This sign implies they're fully aware of how unsafe it is to have a device like that. SO WHY THE FUCK DO THEY HAVE ONE?!

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh they're so cool and convenient!!

/s but sadly not /s

I hate this place

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As a enthusiastic home cook being able to set timers without using my hands is a godsend. Thats 90% of what my google nest hub does.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But your phones already do that

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I disabled voice assistant on my phone. My wife wanted a google nest for home, after the novelty wore off its basically a timer-setter and sometimes turning the tv on when I cant find the remote.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I guess it’s a tele-health thing? Otherwise yeah wtf

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 months ago

Please remember to unplug and throw the echo out of the building. Preferably into a woodchipper.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 months ago

Only acceptable if their mute button is a hammer.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the"mute" feature, a.k.a. "I'm not listening, pinky promise! 😇."

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Alexa, please unmute!

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I worked for a couple years at a residential school where a lot of the kids had significant medical issues (to the point part of our training was on HIPAA). Tons of kids had echo devices, and I spent a significant chunk of my time there trying to get anyone to take seriously the huge privacy risk those things posed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Is it more of a risk than your cell phone?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago

Pull the fuckin plug, holy shit. It’s not that hard.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm not even surprised. All your info is being sent around by shady fax-to-email conversion companies using Chinese servers. Ask me how I know--we use them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

The US is so cooked

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Why is there a mugshot superimposed on this photo? It's just one of those psychological tests where most people don't see it because they expect the window to be reflecting something and they're just reading the sign?

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 months ago (4 children)

It's the mugshot of Ted Kaczynski, AKA the Unabomber, who was quite famous for having an extreme aversion to technology and how he perceived its role in the downfall of society.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You know shit's bad when you start to realize Ted had a few good points.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Uncle Ted had a lot of good points, he just went about expressing them uhhhhhh

VERY poorly

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Makes sense. Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

This person manifestos

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, wtf. Looks like a mugshot

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I want such a voice thingy, but 100% local.

Homeassistant is making porgress with this idea, but it's a slow progress.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's how I feel about AI stuff too. Like, I'd love to "Ghibli-fi" my family like everyone else, but I'd prefer to run it locally rather than hand over family photos to one of these AI companies.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Same boat. Tools like this and Gemini make managing my ADHD sooooo much easier. Having a JARVIS-esque "AI personal assistant" would make a lot of my struggles less debilitating. I'd even be willing to pay, as long as the data stayed private.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Tools like this and Gemini make managing my ADHD sooooo much easier.

Can you elaborate on this?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

My working memory is terrible. If I don't write something down, it's likely forgotten. I've always tried to keep a pen and paper on me, to varying degrees of success. Now, instead I can "Hey Google, add x to my grocery list" and it'll add it to my shopping list in Keep, or "... Create a reminder/alarm/event for..." for reminders to empty the dishwasher in 45 minutes or remember that I just agreed to plans on Saturday.

I'm not a huge fan of Google anymore, but I still willingly use their services because the tradeoff is that beneficial to me.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We had this policy at my last job, but not due to HIPAA. Any time "Alexa" came up in conversations, it was very common for peoples' devices to chime in, telling on them.

Granted, we were in tech, so we were very aware that these things aren't recording everything you say and sending the recordings off to motherbrain nor "spying", per se.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I recall them being caught of being in the possession of recordings they shouldn’t have had.

On top of this the option of not sending recordings to the cloud is being removed just now - so they stopped pretending to respect your privacy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'd need more (and reliable) information to comment on your first statement.

For your second statement, there were apparently a limited number of devices which could process some commands locally, but most devices never had that capability to begin with. For the ones that could, it sounds like Amazon is deprecating the functionality. Does that sound correct? Either way, that's still a substantially different situation from having a device that's recording everything you say and uploading it to the cloud.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Newsweek has a good overview.

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