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[–] [email protected] 127 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (4 children)

Ah yes. "Muted".

If you should be aware of anything, it should be that if you have an Internet connected microphone the only way to truly know it's muted is to remove it from power.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Yep, was gonna post this.

Good luck, this hospital's IT department, good fucking luck.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Some of them have hardware switches

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

but that could simply be wired to an LED and nothing else

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

By that logic these devices can have internal batteries too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

And ones without internet can have secret antennas

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

These companies don't even have to go to that much trouble, since people seem to be just fine connecting everything to the internet willingly.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

This. They don't give a shit about the tiny, infinitesimal percentage of people like me and my fellow privacy-conscious lemmings that understand what's going on, care about it, and refuse to participate.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

This is why regulations to reign in corporate bullshit exist, expecting the average person to have even the faintest idea why this is important isn't reasonable.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

The first-gen echo devices at least actually had a board that listened for the activation word only that then powered on the main device. It's why you couldn't name them whatever you wanted, but had to choose between "Echo", "Alexa", "Amazon", or "Computer."

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago

Preferably, by throwing it out a 6th-floor window

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[–] [email protected] 111 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

This sign implies they're fully aware of how unsafe it is to have a device like that. SO WHY THE FUCK DO THEY HAVE ONE?!

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh they're so cool and convenient!!

/s but sadly not /s

I hate this place

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

As a enthusiastic home cook being able to set timers without using my hands is a godsend. Thats 90% of what my google nest hub does.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

But your phones already do that

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago

I disabled voice assistant on my phone. My wife wanted a google nest for home, after the novelty wore off its basically a timer-setter and sometimes turning the tv on when I cant find the remote.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago

I guess it’s a tele-health thing? Otherwise yeah wtf

[–] [email protected] 52 points 4 weeks ago

Please remember to unplug and throw the echo out of the building. Preferably into a woodchipper.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 weeks ago

Only acceptable if their mute button is a hammer.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the"mute" feature, a.k.a. "I'm not listening, pinky promise! 😇."

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Alexa, please unmute!

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I worked for a couple years at a residential school where a lot of the kids had significant medical issues (to the point part of our training was on HIPAA). Tons of kids had echo devices, and I spent a significant chunk of my time there trying to get anyone to take seriously the huge privacy risk those things posed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago

Is it more of a risk than your cell phone?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 weeks ago

Pull the fuckin plug, holy shit. It’s not that hard.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not even surprised. All your info is being sent around by shady fax-to-email conversion companies using Chinese servers. Ask me how I know--we use them.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (3 children)

Why is there a mugshot superimposed on this photo? It's just one of those psychological tests where most people don't see it because they expect the window to be reflecting something and they're just reading the sign?

[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

It's the mugshot of Ted Kaczynski, AKA the Unabomber, who was quite famous for having an extreme aversion to technology and how he perceived its role in the downfall of society.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

You know shit's bad when you start to realize Ted had a few good points.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago

Uncle Ted had a lot of good points, he just went about expressing them uhhhhhh

VERY poorly

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago

Makes sense. Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago

This person manifestos

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, wtf. Looks like a mugshot

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

I want such a voice thingy, but 100% local.

Homeassistant is making porgress with this idea, but it's a slow progress.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

That's how I feel about AI stuff too. Like, I'd love to "Ghibli-fi" my family like everyone else, but I'd prefer to run it locally rather than hand over family photos to one of these AI companies.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago

Miyazaki says AI art is an insult to life itself

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Same boat. Tools like this and Gemini make managing my ADHD sooooo much easier. Having a JARVIS-esque "AI personal assistant" would make a lot of my struggles less debilitating. I'd even be willing to pay, as long as the data stayed private.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Tools like this and Gemini make managing my ADHD sooooo much easier.

Can you elaborate on this?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

My working memory is terrible. If I don't write something down, it's likely forgotten. I've always tried to keep a pen and paper on me, to varying degrees of success. Now, instead I can "Hey Google, add x to my grocery list" and it'll add it to my shopping list in Keep, or "... Create a reminder/alarm/event for..." for reminders to empty the dishwasher in 45 minutes or remember that I just agreed to plans on Saturday.

I'm not a huge fan of Google anymore, but I still willingly use their services because the tradeoff is that beneficial to me.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I think local voice to text algorithms have gotten pretty freaking accurate. You'd need a way to activate listen, send it over the router, then receive the output signal to an Arduino/Raspberry Pi to switch something on or off. I'm sure it's not terribly difficult to design, but I bet the subscription model is so lucrative no one with the know how would offer a local version.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

So very curious about the Ted Kaczynski photo in the background.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

His manifesto was all about technology controlling our lives. That’s my guess as to why that’s in there.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah.. I feel kind of stupid now.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

It's a meme that people will add his photo to images of technology acting in ways that it shouldn't.

Another example:

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

We had this policy at my last job, but not due to HIPAA. Any time "Alexa" came up in conversations, it was very common for peoples' devices to chime in, telling on them.

Granted, we were in tech, so we were very aware that these things aren't recording everything you say and sending the recordings off to motherbrain nor "spying", per se.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

I recall them being caught of being in the possession of recordings they shouldn’t have had.

On top of this the option of not sending recordings to the cloud is being removed just now - so they stopped pretending to respect your privacy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I'd need more (and reliable) information to comment on your first statement.

For your second statement, there were apparently a limited number of devices which could process some commands locally, but most devices never had that capability to begin with. For the ones that could, it sounds like Amazon is deprecating the functionality. Does that sound correct? Either way, that's still a substantially different situation from having a device that's recording everything you say and uploading it to the cloud.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 weeks ago

Newsweek has a good overview.

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