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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

This comment section is all people missing the point.

The point of the post is that a particular job will generally stabilize at a particular pay. If it's a tipped position, then the employer will pay less, so that the overall income is roughly at that stable income for that position, including the overall average tip.

So people who tip less than the average are free riding off of the people who tip more than average, where that worker will make an average tip overall, which comes more from the generous tippers than the stingy tippers. Thus, it effectively transfers money from generous tippers to stingy tippers, on net, in the long run.

The merits of this system, whether servers deserve to be paid more, whether we should push for reforms so that this isn't the system, is besides the point. The post is making an observation of how things actually are, not advocating for how things should be.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

No worker should depend on tips. Problem solved

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

And yet, people do.

Should we just ignore the dynamics of that system, and pretend it doesn't exist? Or can we make observations about that system, and analyze its effects?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

We should change it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Tip your waitstaff. Don’t be a pos.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago

It goes both ways. We do want families and kids to come in and eat. Some people don’t tip well because they don’t have the means and that’s okay! It’s socialized service. You can look at it like you’re supporting the people who are working and those who want their kids to have experiences they otherwise couldn’t. Just like the guy who orders 3 cocktails subsidies the water and sandwhich guy. Or the 4 kids meals and fries guy. You can look at it a lot of ways.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago

Tipping is one of the only reasons to carry cash

I like to pay by card and hand the waiter a bill or two so they aren't giving half of their tip to management

[–] [email protected] 14 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Tipping is basically donating money to the waiting staff (in a broader sense, to the management of the restaurant).

I think there are more people in need of donations than the ones who move your food 10 steps.

I would 10000% pick my own food and cary it to the table, as I often do in many """lower class""" restaurants (diners?)

That, or add a flat service charge, add it to the check and pay fucking taxes (this is directed to the management).

I don't tip. But I don't live in the US.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 minutes ago* (last edited 8 minutes ago)

The major problem is the ethics of tipping. In the U.S. tipping puts (all if not most) jobs into a category which employers now pay a sub-minimum wage. Legally the employer isn’t responsible for a federal minimum wage anymore because it is assumed tips will cover the rest of it. In actuality with taxes, many people don’t get a paycheck because of how little they earn. It just went to taxes.

EDIT: Imagine working full time (40 hours) and getting a piece of paper that says “THIS IS NOT A CHECK” telling you how little you earned.

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