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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (10 children)

If you can’t smoke outdoors and you can’t smoke indoors, where can you smoke?

[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 month ago (13 children)

In designated smoking spots and in your own home. I’d extend it to vapers. If I can smell the shit you blow out your lungs then it’s very probable it’s in my lungs. Didn’t sign up for that. Personal freedom reaches up to the point where you infringe on the freedom of others (in this care my freedom to not have to breathe your smoke)

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

There are a lot of smells that you are expected to deal with, it seems like kind of a reach. I consider most parfums thoroughly unpleasant but I dont expect it to be made illegal.

That being said, I'm okay with this because of the littering aspect.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The smell of perfume doesn’t cause cancer. Second-hand smoke is proven to do so.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (5 children)

You must have a hard time being anywhere close to a car if you think you are getting cancer because of a 2 second wiff from some guys cig on a beach. Seems like exaggeration, cancer isnt some lightning bolt that hits you the moment you get a hint of something bad near you.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

cancer isnt some lightning bolt that hits you the moment you get a hint of something bad near you.

You're correct, it isn't a lightning bolt. This goes against your statement, not with it. It's an accumulation of increased risk, and eventually it just happens (or doesn't). The more things that increase your risk the higher the odds. You don't just get cancer because someone smoked near you. You have an increased risk of cancer based on how much you've been around your entire life, and everything else that contributes. Reducing risk means reducing as many contributors as possible.

You must have a hard time being anywhere close to a car if you think you are getting cancer because of a 2 second wiff from some guys cig on a beach.

One thing is bad, so we can't do anything about another thing? "People are being killed by cars, but we can't work to reduce that because people are dying from heart disease!" How silly.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Cars don’t make me choke, but good point! I’d ban them from the cities as well.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Oh FFS, yeah, cancer for people living in the same house. Getting a whiff of cigarette smoke isn't doing jack shit to you.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In your own home thats not around anyone else? Nobody wants to breath in your cancer smoke except retards.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (8 children)

I don’t smoke, but I also don’t want to live in a world where you can’t.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You could say smoking is one of the most human activities ever. Does nothing but actively harm and potentially kill everything around you. Just what we're the best at.

But seriously now. Can we speed up smoking bans? Like, everywhere?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

But seriously now. Can we speed up smoking bans? Like, everywhere?

Some European countries, including mine, has decided to raise the smoking age by 1 every year, essentially banning the next generation from smoking. Not really rapid or speeding up, but future is looking good

There was a slight problem where some people were allowed to smoke for portion of the year after birthday and before the age increase, for every year

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Yeah prohibition is famous for working very well and not have any side effect.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago

Europeans should get a new hobby, smoking is gross and you smell like burnt shit

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I live in a country with a strict outdoor smoking ban and I love it.

There are dedicated smoking areas for people to smoke outdoors, but they are really small and cramped with smokers.

It’s actually really nice, you never see or smell people smoking unless you wonder too close to the designated smoking areas which are often really out of the way.

The streets are not really clean here, but at least it’s not cigarette butts. Even things like vapes need to be smoked in a designated area, but sometimes people do it on the street anyway.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago

Good i hope more countries adopt this. Türkiye is terrible for this, lovely country and people but there are smokers almost everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

This comment section is a disaster, just as bad as reddit. Comments of no substance on the side of popular opinion get upvotes, and waves of downvotes come for anyone who disagrees even a little, and even if they do it in a reasonable way.

I’m mildly asthmatic so I don’t smoke, vape, etc. I have tried a few times and it is simply too much for my lungs to cope with. I still think banning people from smoking in public parks or on beaches is a bit much, and not doing the same with vaping seems like a strange double standard. I had a college roommate who both vaped and smoked, and the vaping bothered me more. I still put up with it.

Hopefully enforcement is reasonable - respectful smokers who deliberately try to keep their distance should be allowed to enjoy themselves, but I understand prosecuting(?) those who show no care and smoke right next to nonsmokers.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Anybody who thinks they are breathing clean air just because they banned smoking is kidding themselves. At least the cigarette makes the smoker happy and causes minimal damage to passersby when smoked outside—meanwhile the massive air pollution that companies emit is shortening lifespans of every breather across the globe.

Sure, don’t smoke inside, whatever, but the criminalization and exclusion of addictive behavior is bullshit, in my opinion, especially when it comes in the form of pearl clutching “for the children”.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

this is like the only thing a government has done 'for the children' that actually benefits anyone at all

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Most restaurants in France have outdoor seating. Finally can eat without smelling that foul shit.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

To protect children, meanwhile the soil is filled with cancer-inducing products pumped away illegally by big chemistry plants. In belgium and netherlands we can barely eat our own produce thanks to this. When are we gonna ban them??

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (3 children)

GOOD point. They shouldn't ban cigarettes until everything else bad is also banned.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Protests bigger than anti-Trump ones in the US incoming in 3..2..1..

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

I thought everyone in France smoked, including the kids, no?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

For beaches, and parks, and hiking trails, and places where smoking is usually already banned (at least here), sure.

Standing outside my companies building and taking my smoke break should be fair game.

There are no kids around a random office building at 1:30pm on a Tuesday.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Dang, France is really about to take away the one thing that the USA has always been ahead of them on.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Beaches is going wayy too far imo

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

How ? People are garbage and throw their butts into the sand... Alot of human garbage throw their plastic and shit too, while dogs aren't allowed on beaches? 🤦 This is a good thing + every plastic bottle or trash shouldn't be allowed either !

I quit smoking a year ago but I would totally agree on the Beach part. However, restaurant on an outside table? Nah, nah... That's going to far !

Anyway smoking is bad, its very expensive, you smell bad and it doesn't bring you anything positive.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

So the only people that get to enjoy dining outside are smokers? Nah nah that's going too far.

They wanna smoke? GTFO of the entire eating area away from the entrance and suck their cancer stick there.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I love how everyone supporting this just assumes you'll still be able to smoke at your own home when it doesn't saying anything of the sort. It explicitly states 'where children COULD be present'. This is literally everywhere short of some BDSM dungeon. This is basically going to make the population choose between smoking and having kids.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Which actually sounds fair. Kids do not choose to be born and do not need to inhale smoke because parents are addicted to smoking

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Yeah don't smoke near your kids. It's not that hard.

They're also making the population choose between drinking and driving.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

This is basically going to make the population choose between smoking and having kids.

Hell I'd start smoking again.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

LOL like here in Montreal I see people smoking right next to the "No smoking within 3 meters" or whatever sign.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

I like these laws but also I want to smoke in some places. I'd love a return of places like cigar lounges and whisky bars

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