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[–] [email protected] 138 points 1 week ago (8 children)

it only takes a couple times of getting a made-up bullshit answer from chatgpt to learn your lesson of just skip asking chatgpt anything altogether

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I stopped using it when I asked who I was and then it said I was a prolific author then proceeded to name various books I absolutely did not write.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago

I just read "The Autobiography of QueenHawlSera"!
Have I been duped?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why the fuck would it know who you are?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you have an account, you can tell it things about yourself. I used my boss's account for a project at work (felt gross). I made the mistake of saying "good morning" to it one day, and it proceeded to ask me if I was going to do (activities related to my boss's personal life - and the details were accurate). I was thinking, "why does he tell it so much about himself?"

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But chatgpt always gives such great answers on topics I know nothing at all about!

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Or you could learn to use the tool better and ask better questions. It's pretty decent at some things, absolutely terrible for others.

Asking to explain something like shorting a stock is one of the better uses, since there are tons of relevant posts explaining exactly that.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Oooooooor, I could use something mostly reliable instead of something that's sketch.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Why not both? Use the LLM to refine what you're looking for, and better sources for details. It's like skimming summaries in search results before picking a web page, or asking friends/family before looking up actual sources.

LLMs are great for interactive information retrieval and figuring out what information you actually need. They don't do everything, but they do a lot more than detractors claim and lot less than proponents claim. Find that happy middle-ground and it'll be a great tool.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Why though? If I can't trust them half the time and I have to figure out when that is, nah.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Not everyone has a bank of experts waiting for whatever questions they have.

If you have better options, fine. But if you are spending two hours googling instead of just asking chatgpt to spend five minutes finding you mostly the same links, you are just wasting time. Its easy to have it pull sources that you can quickly verify and then base your actually documentation on. FYI, I personally do both (I search while it does).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Except these "experts" are wrong a lot, so you can't trust them. It's the confidently wrong that's problematic.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

Yes, you are still expected to participate and verify what is said. I also dont copy paste stuff from websites without verification since god knows the internet in general isn't always right either.

It's a productivity tool meant to help you, not do the job for you.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (5 children)

So asking family and friends about things you don't know isn't worth it? Reading personal blogs isn't worth it?

As long as you go in knowing what it offers, it can be a great tool, like those little summaries on search results. I use them to find information when the search engine isn't going to be a great option, or at my day job to generate code for a poorly documented library. I tend to use it a handful of times per week, if that, and only for things that I know how to verify (i.e. manually test, confirm w/ official sources, etc).

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

LLMs are great for tech bros and CEOs who want maximum profit with minimum effort all while stealing work that isn't theirs and poisoning the planet at the same time.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Nono you see... why be unsure when you could be wrong? 🤔

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm dying laughing at the "NOOOOO AI BAAAAAAD" folks downvoting you for being absolutely correct on how to use the tool properly XD

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Eh, it comes w/ the territory. Lemmy is generally anti-LLM, and this is a post that would specifically trigger people who hate LLMs.

I just hope a few people stop and think about whether their distaste for LLMs is reasonable or just bandwagoning.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Forget trying to say anything positive about LLM or AI. The Lemmyverse downvotes any positive comment related to AI.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

I'm well aware, but I think clearing misconceptions is valuable, and since I'm getting a fair amount of votes in both directions and discussion, hopefully that means people have read and considered my point.

I'm not going to recommend people use LLMs for everything or even claim that they're perfect for everyone (in fact, I don't like using them), just that they do have valid uses and, if it comes up, can be used efficiently (i.e. not burn down the planet). I use them a handful of times in a given week, often less, and mostly to get more keywords to search on a traditional search engine.

So yeah, it's whatever. I very much dislike both extremes here, and am trying to drive home the point that there is a happy middleground.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I was using it to blow through an online math course I'd ultimately decided I didn't need but didn't want to drop. One step of a problem I had it solve involved finding the square root of something; it spat out a number that was kind of close, but functionally unusable. I told it it made a mistake three times and it gave a different number each time. When I finally gave it the right answer and asked, "are you running a calculation or just making up a number" it said that if I logged in, it would use real time calculations. Logged in on a different device, asked the same question, it again made up a number, but when I pointed it out, it corrected itself on the first try. Very janky.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

ChatGPT doesn't actually do calculations. It can generate code that will actually calculate the answer, or provide a formula, but ChatGPT cannot do math.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 week ago

First they came for my mansplaining and I said nothing...

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Shorting: Like investing but you can lose more than you put in.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago

Investing: Theoretically infinite gain, limited loss

Shorting: Limited gain, theoretically infinite loss

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago

Shorting: investing but you take a loan to do it and you bet on things failing.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (9 children)

So is a lot of types of investing, so that's really not a good definition, and just like investing if you know what you are doing you can come out way ahead with an almost guarantee with shorting

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Investing in any single thing is gambling in my book.

Sure, it can pay off, but it can go badly too, and "knowing what you're doing" is what everyone thinks they're doing, right up to the point where they don't.

Although shorting Tesla might not be a bad plan right about now. Seeing Trump and Musk destroy each other is what I live for.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Shorting tesla might not seem a bad plan for about a decade now, the market can remain illogical longer than the premiums you pay on the short position.

Well you can also have "know how" from other things, for example years ago I was following a lot of PC hardware news and for me it was sure as fuck that both AMD and Nvidia will only increase for a while, Ryzen was starting to go strong and Intel was not putting up competition, and the then crypto market nicely transitioned into AI for keeping demand for Nvidia products high af.

Anyone who knew someone from the boeing factories or had knowledge of what went on in that company likely should have known to short the shit out of the boeing stock the moment the first 787 Max went down.

Really the stock market involves a lot of paying attention to stuff and then trying to to bet on the more likely stuff, it's never a guarantee is it.

Right now I am mostly paying attention to the car market, there I would say shorting US car manufacturers is a decent bet, Nissan if the stock is still low is a decent investment target, I don't think they will go under and they have some nice cars at good prices.

Stellantis went through a bit of turbulence, but they are coming out with some good stuff now, so they could see some upswing.

But really I haven't even looked at the stock prices so this might be all stupid shit.

If you don't want to gamble just invest in ETFs every month and you will be fine.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Correct me of im wrong. But cant you lose an infinite amount if the stock rockets up and the share owners comes asking their shares back?...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Yes you can

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (4 children)

If ai can start pirating old movies then it's curtains for me brotherzz 😞

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

"Hey Alexa, add Rick and Morty to Sonarr and download the first season for me"

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My gf knows nothing about math. And has to learn a bit. I'm a software engineer so of course I offered to teach her.

Gave her some exercises to do. Because she prefers to do them alone without help. And after 30 minutes she's like "can you help me decipher what chatgpt told me?".

Of course, what chatgpt told her was utter garbage. Bruh, I'm right here and I'm teaching you, just ask me for help, not a word predictor.

I'm actually impressed how bad chatgpt answered, this was low high school level maths/physics. The bot is advertised as if it were going to leave me without a job in the next year.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Shorting: cutting your jeans into shorts

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's jorting. You have bejorted yourself.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

People do know they could have just googled things and looked at the top results before right? Even with all the enshitification it's gone through it will still usually yield something useful for any topic that isn't super niche. Like if I search "shorting" the top 3 results are articles from Wikipedia, Investorpedia, (don't know enough about it to know if it's reliable) and Charles Schwab, a source with a conflict of interest since they probably sell that service, but they're probably at least going to explain why you'd want to buy it from them, and then as a bonus the 4th result is an ELI5 Reddit thread, which while probably not the most reliable source of info, is probably about on the same level as randomly asking your SO about a topic which they're not an expert in.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just fyi investorpedia is reliable. Ive personally never found incorrect information there.

Im not so sure id call schwab a conflict of interest exactly. They do provide the service, but financial institutions like that are not allowed to provide investing advice, so they cant upsell strategies like that. All they can do is explain it so that you know what strategy you want to pursue.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Can AI open a jar? Can AI kill a spider?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

10/10 usage of this GIF

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

You're wasting computation time by saying please to your boyfriend. Alman said it and he has a boyfriend.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

That's when you turn it around and ask her about how to deal with some social situation. Oh nvm, chatgpt gave me a great idea

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

I would have asked, "And what exactly does ChatGPT think it is?" Because there's a pretty good chance that it made up a definition that is 100% bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well our society is falling apart as we barrel towards another great war with the most certainly a expectation that Yankeeland is gonna drop a nuke on a civilian population. There will be conscripts and consequences. Oh yeah let's not forget arresting the homeless and giving them felonies and throwing them into for profit prisons. Lets not forget the hooverviles. But sure you're a top G with your illgotten gains with a currency that is rapidly declining. What a limp dick techchoad dum dumb culture. Drinking from a poisoned well were the bully gets you to punch yourself in your own face and you celebrate this. We celebrate this world of the lowest common denominator. We eat our own. This is a empty vessel of lesser things. A pit of despair... A whoreable land that is hostile to real innovation and creativity. We all are nothing but dildos for the capitalist. It would be better to be closer to the blast zone. The rich have bunkers and we all will starve to death. Capitalism is a death cult and shorting is gambling with your children's future. Only the most idiotic will replicate. This seems now a activity for the most supremely vain, non mathmatical and selfish. Thank gawd all men die.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

This is a very intense, and worryingly doomer response to someone vaguely mentioning the concept of short selling

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

I had to explain this to my girlfriend, I still have a job

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