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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

That's a typo, it's supposed to be an R in the middle there, not an F

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Shouldn't it be "Freedom From” ?

[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 week ago (1 children)

From what I saw, it's more or less just a new app that starts when windows boots up. Plus some improvements like "the controller now works in UAC prompts" - which tells me that they didn't really learn anything.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 week ago (4 children)

it's more or less just a new app

You know a reason why Linux with Steam runs just way better than win? Because they use game scope, therefore not needing to render and run all of the desktop.

So what does Microsoft do? They release a new app on top of the already bloated desktop.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Gamescope is a compositor. It has many useful gaming features, but it doesn’t have a major performance advantage over desktops like Gnome, KDE, or tilers.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The performance advantage comes from the fact that there isn't a full-fat desktop running concurrently with the game. You're booting directly into Steam.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

Performance isn't noticably worse in desktop mode on the Steam Deck compared to gaming mode. Windows is just full of bloat and has a trash power scheduler.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They thinned the os, ive just watched llt video, the appear to have debloated some of it

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They thinned the os

X Doubt

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well according to information out there they did get permition to tweak Windows to make it much more sutible for gaming handhelds.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (7 children)

that sucks, make windows lightweight for all of us.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This got me thinking that Valve is the best competitor to Xbox. Instead of getting to release some walled garden, single store handheld they have to open it up to other stores because otherwise people would just buy a SteamDeck.

But everyone who cares about handheld gaming already has a steam deck and this is going to be more expensive so I don't see the point anyway.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago

Moar power! More more more more!!!

boots up an indie roguelite

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

I guess they are trying to get people already paying for game pass to buy it, because you can play everything on it. But then people won't be able to cancel their subscription or they'll have a very expensive paperweight without games.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago (4 children)

"Freedom of Windows" "Power of Xbox" Good stuff. We should make some more. "From a brand you can trust" "Pro gamers choose ... " "Powered by Copilot and Game pass"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

"Relive past game moments with recall" "Totally not going to be dropped in 3 years"

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago

Players on either device will be able to tap into Gaming Copilot ...

...yeah

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Oh dear god it is apparently serious.

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2025/06/08/xbox-handheld-rog-ally-x-games-showcase/

Any guesses for MSRP?

$1200 for the X variant?

$600?

Will MSFT bet the farm, take the upfront loss on the unit, and try to convince everyone this is both their next handheld and their next mainline living room console at the same time?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm so hoping Microsoft eats some of the cost of this and makes it a reasonable price. Think of the awesomeness of $600-700 handheld console that can be much more easily modded than the switch 2.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I would love for that to be the case as well... but it wouldn't make any sense for MSFT to do the first part, and I strongly suspect they do not have the finances to do the second part.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

They used to lower the price of Xboxes/?Xbeexes? lower than actual profit margins because they could get more in game sales.

I think the finances are no longer there though to do that but I think it would inspire people to get the game pass more if they did.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Who the fuck announces a product on a Sunday? They must not have much hope this will sell...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Today was the xbox showcase

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Nah. The ROG Ally X they already make with windows 11 and 1 TB is $800+tax. The ROG Ally that came before it was $700 and currently sells for like $400 or so.

The 2TB Rog Ally X is about $1k + tax. I honestly doubt they can get people to pay more than that for a handheld, regardless of the Z2 chip. They are having trouble selling the ones they currently make. Add to this that Lenovo just launched the steam os variant of their newest handheld and it's significantly cheaper.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I mean, the Zune is fucking amazing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

FM radio when you wanted it, big color screen that you could watch actual videos on at a solid playback that you could do video out to a TV with. WiFi song sharing. Great playback and no fingerprints in my semitransparent case that glows.

Zune was amazing.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Honestly

As compared to consoles? Windows is pretty free.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Other than the Windows tax, ads, bloatware, constant intrusive up-sell attempts…

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Again

COMPARED TO CONSOLES? That's basically paradise.

Modern, unhacked and unmodded Consoles are:

  1. Completely locked down, not only do they not let you install applications not approved by the manufacturer, in reality you can ONLY buy them from the manufacturer and you pay a hefty tax for that "privilege".

  2. Feeding you ads and upsell attempts whenever you turn them on, as the UI has basically been redesigned to try to sell you more shit first and make getting to your actual games take a few extra steps

  3. Any undesired feature in a console's OS is something you just have to accept and move on. Powerusers killing Windows bloat with third party tools is a time-honoured tradition that goes back to Windows 3.11

I'm not saying Windows is good.

I'm saying that for someone coming from a PlayStation or a traditional XBoXSeXxxx (I love making jokes out of this name), this whitelabelled ROG Ally machine would feel like finally being able to breathe. Just for the fact that you can use more than one storefront and install applications from wherever you want.

Let me put it this way:

Linux is an anarchist commune. True freedom.

Windows is an American Style Capitalist Republic. Freedom*********** with a thousand asterisks more. BUT for someone coming from the North Korea that is playing on consoles (or using an iOS mobile device or...), it DOES feel like finally breathing free.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Compared to Xbox OS, Windows is very free.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

yea the full sentence makes more sense. "freedom of windows, power of xbox" implies it's trying to compare to previous xbox experience, not other OS.

Although still, never had a console, but I thought a gaming PC is usually more powerful than xbox though. Or I could get mad overthinking of what do they meam by power, what do they mean by freedom. This is why I often dont like marketing speak & just disregard it.

[–] LostWanderer 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

ROFL More like chains of Microsoft!

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I saw that it's a trimmed down version of windows so I'm interested in giving it a chance. Who knows, maybe we will be able to install said trimmed down version on regular hardware which would be interesting.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (13 children)

The one thing I took away from it was that the Xbox-button acts as alt tab. I WANT THE SAME FROM MY STEAM DECK IN DESKTOP MODE!

But in Desktop mode the Steam button does absolutely nothing while a game is running.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Everyone that is scared they can't play the most popular online games on their handheld. So theoretically a massive demographic according to research (most pc gamers play older live service titles) done but whether they would want a gaming handheld is a different question.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We've known for a bit they were going to do this.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

penny arcade? Wow, are they even still around? I havent seen anyone talk about or reference them for..god.. 10 years?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

It's still around, but it hasn't been funny for a long-ass time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Penny Arcade Expo is one of the biggest gaming conventions in America (and Aus) so I'd say yeah. I think they still make the comic too.

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