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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted clever little truths, hidden in daily life.

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[–] [email protected] 113 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Wait til you hear what happened when the Black Panthers tried to exercise their 2nd amendment rights.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Something bad. Is it something bad? I bet it was something bad.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

Funnily enough it resulted in more gun control, so it was something good.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Look at the results of that 90s LA bank robbery. It was the first time that two guys had enough body armour and firepower to challenge the local police. What was the end result? Every police officer across the country getting assigned body armour and high powered rifles, and every police agency militarizing and buying APCS, tactical units, etc.

The idea that the government would allow you to own weaponry that would legitimately challenge them is asinine.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (11 children)

That’s still the purpose of the second amendment, for people to own guns to defend themselves and others against tyranny

You can’t expect everyone to agree with you ideologically, and obviously they won’t rise up against a government they agree with. Conservatives don’t see the current administration as tyrannical, so there is no conflict for them between the ideals of the second amendment and their actions.

However, you can absolutely choose to exercise your second amendment rights.

As a gun owning liberal, I’m tired of my peers acting like the second amendment is some conservative agenda. The right to firearm ownership is an eminently liberal ideal. More liberals and leftists should own guns— the second amendment is more important now than ever before.

If you think there is a pressing need for an armed liberal/leftist citizenry, go buy guns and arm yourselves.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

If you need to exercise your right to bear arms, you have already lost. The battle is won in education, critical skills, and mobilising together (unions, etc).

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago

You aren't wrong... but leaving guns off the table feels short sighted.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

If we ever need to raise arms against the government, it will be a dark day indeed. No reasonable person wants that. We have many methods of recourse before that even enters the conversation IMO.

However, there can eventually come a time where resistance is appropriate. Hitler never would have taken complete control of the country, exterminated so many Jews, and started Europe on the path to a world war if the Germans were armed and actively resisting his rule.

It seems self evident that the German people would been better off resisting Nazi rule than allowing the death camps and WW2 to come to fruition.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What makes you think they didn't have guns?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

However, there can eventually come a time where resistance is appropriate. Hitler never would have taken complete control of the country, exterminated so many Jews, and started Europe on the path to a world war if the Germans were armed and actively resisting his rule.

Bruh, come the fuck on. Jews were 1% of the population, meanwhile like 30% of the population actively supported the Nazis, and far more would have continued to turn a blind eye as long as violence wasn't being perpetrated against people like them.

This is nonsense alt history that ignores the fact that Nazis steamrolled and enacted death camps in far more countries than just Germany, and personal ownership of firearms didn't make a dent in stopping them.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Good luck with whatever the fuck you’re smoking.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

History shows time and time again that collapsing cities/societies/empires cannot be stopped nor redirected with violence. The endemic causes are there, violence may provide a respite but it just accelerates the overall disintegration of the society.

May what is happening to the USA be a wake up call for the rest of the western world.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

This is honestly, the dumbest, most American take in the world.

It literally ignores the plainly obvious fact that not a single other developed country allows gun ownership, and yet, still have rights and democracy and freedom.

Guns did not get your rights, and they do not protect you from a government that has AI powered drones with anti tank mines on them. Hell a fucking APC with a sound cannon will make your AR look like a child's toy.

Guess what happened when a pair of guys had enough guns and body armour to challenge the local LA government in the 90s? Oh would you look at that, every single local government's police force across the country just militarized and bought tanks and SWAT teams in response. The idea that the government will let any random potentially mentally ill or terrorist citizen, buy enough firepower that they could legitimately challenge the government, is dumb on its face. No government anywhere allows that or would for obvious (see: terroristic) reasons.

Wide spread gun ownership just makes everyone less safe. Full stop.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This is honestly, the dumbest, most American take in the world.

Hell yeah brother 🦅🦅🦅

It literally ignores the plainly obvious fact that not a single other developed country allows gun ownership, and yet, still have rights and democracy and freedom.

Many other developed countries allow gun ownership. Educate yourself, my man.

But more importantly, I literally do not care if they do or not. The point was never that democracy cannot exist without firearms, but rather that in the worst case scenario an armed citizenry can act as a force against tyranny. It’s a rare thing that it might be needed, and a last resort. No sane person wants a civil war

Guns did not get your rights

Except they literally did. How do you think the revolutionary war was won, softly spoken words?

they do not protect you from a government that has AI powered drones with anti tank mines on them. Hell a fucking APC with a sound cannon will make your AR look like a child's toy.

Guerrillas with small arms in developing countries have repelled the US military repeatedly over the past half century. More importantly, if you don’t think a combination of small arms and low cost homemade munitions are effective against a modern military you haven’t been paying attention to the war in Ukraine at all.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

Do you know how many innocent people's blood that has cost?

Encouraging people to arms themselves will get people killed. You're racing to the bottom in a doom loop and yelling hell yeah nonsensically rather than actually trying to break out of that doom loop.

America is fucked because it's convinced it's population that it has to keep participating in its toxic behaviours to survive. That's false. It's literally just fear mongering.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

it's not fear mongering when we're literally months away from being the next fascist state.

And another thing to consider, cars kill about as many people in the US as guns, so we should be talking about banning cars as well?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

You have proven the second amendment is just so you can shoot your neighbour. None of you rose up against his first term, none of you will now. All the child sacrifices you have been doing were just so you can feel cool with your gun and dream of shooting someone one day.

Its time to admit it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You're right. It's a liberal idea to allow the (largely) unregulated possession of firearms. However, it takes a certain mindset to pickup that forearm and try to decide how the country is run with it through armed insurrection. One that's more akin to authoritarian, or at least paternalism.

Personally I feel if the 2nd amendment is there for this reason, the ln the no kings marches should have had arms. That's a powderkeg scenario and we'd probably be looking at hundreds dead at this point. However if there was ever a reason for the 2nd amendment, this is it and that's the cost. Otherwise there's no point in the right to bear arms and you should scrap it.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That’s still the purpose of the second amendment, for people to own guns to defend themselves and others against tyranny

It isn't, and has never been. The language of the constitution is plain as day:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed."

The mythos of the 2nd amendment being this poison pill for a tyrannical state government is only so pervasive because institutions like the NRA perpetuated it for decades in service of arms manufacturers and their bottom line. No sane government anywhere in the world would bake such a clause into their constitution, it's antithetical to government itself.

The 2nd amendment is absolutely an artifact of a bygone era of American history where, as a fledgling nation, we did not have a powerful standing army to rely on for defense against foreign adversaries. A people's militia was the final defense against such a threat.

However, all that being said, I agree with your sentiment that leftists should be arming themselves. Just because the 2nd amendment has almost completely lost it's original intent or meaning, doesn't mean we can't take advantage of the fact that it exists with tons of legal precedent to strap up in preparation for what might come next. Things are unlikely to get better from here, and if things get worse you will be glad you have a firearm for protection.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The founding fathers have written at length on their reasoning for including the right to bear arms in the constitution. It is very clear that they believed in the people’s ability to resist and overthrow the government if needed.

After all, this was a group who escaped the grip of the monarchy through force of arms. It’s odd to think that they didn’t see value in the ability of the people to do the same, especially when they repeatedly wrote about it in period.

However, all that being said, I agree with your sentiment that leftists should be arming themselves. Just because the 2nd amendment has almost completely lost it's original intent or meaning, doesn't mean we can't take advantage of the fact that it exists with tons of legal precedent to strap up in preparation for what might come next. Things are unlikely to get better from here, and if things get worse you will be glad you have a firearm for protection.

Also this here is kind of the point. The original intent is not important; many people believe in the modern era that an armed citizenry is important as a last ditch balancing force to government overreach. We are all better off if left leaning people arm themselves instead of using pro-gun arguments as some sort of self-righteous gotcha against the right.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It was of course always the plan to radicalize these people and then utilize them

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago

I feel like it makes more sense if the guns were always there to protect stolen land.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Guns are naught but tools. They have no moral nor political ambition. All they can do is provide an amplifier of force, no matter your ideology.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Only you don't accidentally beat someone to death with a hammer.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

You don't accidentally shoot anyone either, it's negligence.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Let’s not get tied up in semantics but the idea that you can’t “accidentally” shoot someone is nonsense. Whether you call it negligence or not, if it’s not on purpose, then it’s an accident.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago

The ones that created the government had to actually fight for their freedom. People became complacent afterwards, and seem to think that freedom is a given.

It reminds me of some quote “freedom isn’t owned, it’s rented, and rent is due everyday.”

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

What a hot take, as if firearm owners are all the same, as if there are not left leaning gun owners.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The result of several decades from NRA successfully screaming Dems gonna get you guns!

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Well the founding fathers and the powers at be are directly opposed. If I ran a tyranny, the first thing I would do is push propaganda to heavily stigmatize anything that could jeopardize it. The result I'd be aiming for would be a dynamic where firearms are only in the hands of people who support the tyranny, while making sure anyone who would oppose it is piss scared to even be in the same room as a gun. I'd make sure to instill a complex stigma, such that the opposition not only feels a primal fear of guns, but also a fear of social consequences, since there are plenty of people for whom social outcast is worse than death.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

One aspect of the U.S. Second Amendment that I struggle to understand is how owning firearms can be seen as a check against government power in the modern era. No matter how much money an individual spends on collecting weapons, they can never match the resources of a government with access to advanced technology like orbital GPS networks, fighter jets, drones, bioweapons, logistics, and nuclear weapons.

When the Amendment was written, weaponry was still in its early stages of development, and the assumption was that a well-armed populace could, with sufficient numbers, overthrow a tyrannical regime. However, in today's world, this seems unrealistic. Even if someone owned a thousand .50 caliber Desert Eagles, it wouldn’t make a significant difference against such overwhelming governmental power.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The Vietnamese and Afghans could probably tell us a thing or two.

One aspect I don't think many appreciate is the deterrent effect of private gun ownership. The fascists would have already overrun us were we not armed. Notice the major ICE raids have been in NYC and California? Those are the two places in America with the strictest, and often dumbest, gun laws. Anecdotally, being visibly armed likely saved me two ass beatings in the past year. LOL, one guy was so fucking mad he was shaking, choking himself to be polite.

Most of our military might can't be brought to bear on civilians. The examples you gave are purpose built to fight another military on their turf. The Air Force isn't going to deploy fighter jets to put down a riot. And NONE of those things will continue working about a week after civilians pull support.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Guerilla warfare works. It's great against large systems with small vulnerabilities. In those cases a small imbedded group is far better than outside force.

I hear.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

You see, if the government bombs it's cities flat, it no longer has anything to govern, and falls anyways.

What we need are armed protests. Something you can't just easily police thug your way out of. We can all go protest and wave signs all we want, but until those in power are once again afraid of it's people, nothing will change.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I await with interest your explanation as to how and why private gun ownership "caused and supported" the current unlawful government, considering that the government is perfectly capable of obtaining its own guns and supplying them to its goons without our input or intervention. And has been doing so for a little over two centuries. Furthermore, gun laws are deliberately structured such that the police and various government forces throughout the country enjoy considerably less restriction (or even none) on the type, number, and nature of guns that they're allowed to own and use. Even if the individuals in question are retired or no longer on active duty.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The things that radical fascist media talking heads are hyperbolically lying about nonstop are justification for invoking 2A rights.

Unfortunately liberals are pussy-assed bitches so nothing will happen and they'll all be chunked into an oven.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

This is more a consequence of manipulative propaganda and poor education being weaponized against people, rather than a direct reflection of constitutional gun laws.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Almost every tyrannical regime in the 20th century systematically disarmed their citizenry, leading to some of the greatest atrocities the world has ever seen. It's not a coincidence.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Gee, maybe if you shouldn't expect others to pick up arms for you. Maybe you have to diy your own revolution.

Like honestly, what did you actually expect?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Your post history is a mess.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I have him tagged as 'misguided soul'

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Holy shit - he's one of those lunatics that thinks Bernie Sanders is a corrupt politician committing crimes!

If I see one more mouthbreather rant about a guy with multiple published books owning more than one house as if that's a smoking gun, I'm going to go postal!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Gun rights weren't sold on that. That is not the original meaning of the amendment, which talked about a standing militia being armed against foreign invasion. But yeah, they have been sold on that in modern times, and it is no surprise to see that that premise is not being questioned in the slightest even in this thread. Just people regurgitating right wing gun rhetoric.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I mean, the rest of the western world already knows this for decades. You silly Americans are just starting to try and catch up.

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