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[–] [email protected] 70 points 3 days ago (5 children)

If the Gemini app is not installed, it can't do this right

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm rather confused. I don't have any app called Gemini installed, but despite this "Hey Google" brings up Gemini. So I have no app to disable, and no way to turn off interaction with other apps. This is on a Samsung A55 in Europe, happily taking advice on how to proceed.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

My four year old low-end test device running Android had its assistant switched out from Google Assistant to Gemini. I was very surprised since I'd assumed that the vendor had stopped supporting it since it was so cheap, but it updated anyway.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

My OnePlus 2 (latest official android was 6, it's running lineageos android 11 though) also got its assistant swapped with Gemini so idk

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

Google Play is separate from Android. Google likely updates it through that route, rather than relying on manufacturers.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Gemini was automatically installed for me, and the app connections were all enabled, like the article describes. Better check and be safe than to be sorry

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Same, but somehow there was a warning and a possibility to switch back to Google assistant instead, which I did

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

It keeps changing back to Gemini on its own for me even if I don't use the assistant at all.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is my assumption too. It's disabled for me. I have no plans to change that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

I don't even have a Gemini app installed in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Exactly. It is an odd advice - disable something you had to install first just to disable?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago (3 children)

It installed itself as part of an update package.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

I was fully expecting that, but since enshittification recently intensified (Android 15's bluetooth settings are a giant step back in usability), neither google play nor system in general nor anything from motorola has internet access on my phone, I send everything through RethinkVPN (from f-droid) and block all internet access except for apps that I explicitly allow. I'm just not updating anything except periodically Signal, IronFox and PipePipe.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In the case of my fully updated pixel 9 pro XL, Gemini was installed from the factory. I uninstalled it and installed Google Assistant. It has not re-installed itself for me, and further, I would recommend that if you don't use Gemini, you uninstall it.

This may change once the July patch hits but. As of right now it's not currently installed.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In my case (Galaxy S21) I can only disable it, not uninstall.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

In my case it doesnt appear in the App drawer but when I opened assistant it offered me switching to Gemini, which I did. Then within it, went to Apps to disable integrations like WhatsApp which by default was ON. Same with SMS and others.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Update of what? Android or something else?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

It must be an Android update as that's all I ever do, and I never installed Gemini. I just checked and it was there, with permissions to access WhatsApp and multiple other apps. I just removed all the permissions and disabled the app. We'll see if any future updates turn it back on.

Shhhhhneeeeeky bastards.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pro tip: you can probably uninstall Gemini via ADB. Android won't let you uninstall it using your phone's UI, but since it's just another package you can probably use the old ADB tricks to wipe it from your phone. Use your favorite search engine to figure out how, it's not exactly a secret.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Or if you prefer GUI on device apps, Shizuku and then use Cantata

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Kinda seems fucking stupid

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I haven't turned it on. Am I safe?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)

They'd have to install it first.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago

Google play services says bonjour

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yes, but the phones of all your peers will have that shit on them.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If I have the app disabled it probably can't do anything right?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The Gemini app. I can't uninstall it from my phone but I have it disabled. Not sure if Google's other account access and apps on my phone are going to still feed into Gemini.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I think when google app and play services still present on your device, it feeds data into gemini anyway. Hope you are not using google vanilla apps.

By the way why you arent able to uninstall gemini app ? 🤔 Did you tried lineage os with microg which is way better ?!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I have stock android on a pixel and was able to just uninstall it. So it's not all devices at least

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

If your phone is unaltered in any way, absolutely nothing you do on it is private, even turned off.

Sweating over one app when your entire phone is the posterboy for spyware? lol

edit: "nice downvotes!" ~ Google

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why are you being downvoted for this? In stock devices the user has no way to even start looking at what is being run. All you can do is trust the manufacturer.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Because it's worth plugging up some privacy holes even if you can't get all of them. Google already knows my name, address, and phone number, but that's no reason to let 5th Edition Character Sheet learn it too. They already have gigabytes of personally identifiable data on me, doesn't mean I'm cool with them bumping that up to terabytes

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

I got a privacy update for Gmail tools too. It used to be to enable smart tools you needed to allow google to read your email. That does stuff like automatically add calendar events for flights and such.

Now you must also allow the email to be read by their AI services too. I can’t recall precisely how it was worded, but it was an easy decision to keep the “smart” features off.

I mean, I really just use Gmail as the email address I give to sign up for sites and such, but would be good just not to have it one day.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Is this a US only thing? I have no email and no Gemini app (although there are settings in system)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I hope so considering I talk to others who will have Android phones with Google on it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Good thing I don't have that shit on my phone (at least until Google forces it)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

The people you're messaging might, though.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Don't go and manually install it.

The misinformation about this has been wild.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Oh hell nah

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Cool, the app that doesn't exist on my phone will access an account I don't have. I've never used WhatsApp and I don't plan to start now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Hopefully unintalling and disabling is actually doing something. I feel like they are just tricking us and you can't really disable it.

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