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[–] [email protected] 115 points 5 days ago (3 children)

2029 Headline: Worlds largest data breach caused by zero day exploit in popular PNG 3.0 renderer

the payload was reportedly embedded in an animated image of the attacker repeatedly flicking his left testicle

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

That was because they added 'shorts' and friend-lists to it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 days ago

I bet it was a single flick and he ran it on a loop.

[–] [email protected] 149 points 6 days ago (32 children)

But is it backwards compatible with an old version that can't be updated?

[–] [email protected] 93 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, this was my first thought. How many slightly older, no-longer-being-updated pieces of software will fail to open the new version? Hopefully it’s built in a way that it just falls back to legacy and ignores the extra information so you can at least load the file.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Popular photo and video editing apps like Photoshop, DaVinci Resolve, and Avid Media Composer already support it, alongside Chrome, Safari, and Firefox. Apple’s iOS and macOS also work with the new file standard.

This is all the article mentions. I hope you’re right about the backwards compatibility.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I remember the Wild West Web days when it was a toss up seeing if animated Gifs, transparencies in images, or the specific hexadecimal for your personal shade of purple you created would render properly between browsers.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Lies! That gif is sped up 2000%!

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago

LOL, I heard that gif. Timed it in my mind, on the money OP.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 days ago (8 children)

I mean, that's already how animated .gifs work. If somehow you manage to load one into a viewer that doesn't support the animation functionality it will at least dutifully display the first frame.

How the hell you would manage to do that in this day and age escapes me, but there were a fair few years in the early '90s where you might run into that sort of thing.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 days ago

Speaking for animation, your browser probably already supports APNG. APNG is 21 years old and has decent adoption. But it’s officially part of the club.

That said, APNGs are fat as fuck and they’re a pretty old solution to animated graphics with an alpha channel. Don’t expect to see everyone making APNGs all of the sudden. There is a reason why people have kept it at a distance.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago

Some of this is paving the cowpath - the animated PNG stuff is 20 years old and e.g. Firefox has had support since March 2007.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Animated PNG has been trying to be an extension to the PNG spec for 20+ years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APNG

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Yep, it was one of the ways to have an animated avatar on BB forums.

Most recently, I have seen them being used in animated chat stickers (like on Signal).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Right there's actually like a select few applications that support it which is cool, but so many get confused when they see an apng file with frames.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

It's great that Papua New Guinea is still receiving updates /s

[–] [email protected] 56 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

I could have sworn animated pngs were a thing in the Macromedia Fireworks days. Really dating myself with that ref.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There were two different animated PNG extensions, MNG and APNG. Neither of them ever really caught on. I guess they're hoping to do better by baking it into the core spec.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

APNG is what they're using in v3, so all many libraries need to do* is update that code for HDR.

* surely that's easy, right?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I mean, on a Linux system that's not riddled with flatpak / snap / ... You'd basically only need to update libpng and you'd be good.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I miss the days when all the cool websites used Flash. I think Macromedia killed it for some reason. Probably because it had security flaws, back then it was pretty bandwidth-intensive too, but it made for some dynamic web designs.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 days ago

Flash had a myriad of problems. Web devs celebrated its death.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago (4 children)

The current situation with megabytes of JavaScript is pretty bad, but at the time, there was still a fair bit of dialup active, and mobile web was just starting to be a thing - on EDGE and barely 3G. It would take minutes to load.

Also, Steve Jobs had it in for Flash and that’s what ultimately killed it off, I think.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Would this be the Gif killer? If PNG can contain a relatively similar frame count & time limit but with marginally better image quality it just may.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Fracturing support for a legacy format makes so much more sense than actually supporting a modern format like JXL, right?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago

If this actually stands a chance of taking off, I'll honestly take what I can get to normalise HDR images

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Is it pronounced png or png?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago

Jxl train choo choo

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago

HDR capable PNGs that don't look shite on SDR displays? Sign me up!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Now if anyone don't mind explaining, PNG vs JXL?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (8 children)

JXL is badly supported but it does offer lossless encoding in a more flexible and much more efficient way than png does

Basically jxl could theoretically replace png, jpg, and also exr.

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