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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (5 children)

He's not a CEO any more, but Bill Gates is on a mission to die a mere millionaire, and I think has already given away more than half his net worth.

[–] [email protected] 116 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Bill Gates is a massive piece of shit. Don't let all the propaganda he puts out there fool you. When you start looking closer at his so-called charity work it's not nearly as pretty as you might think.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I personally prefer all billionaires follow his path.

I've looked at his charities too over the last few years and didn't see anything that was questionable.

Anything you want to call out?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Bill Gates fucked the public school systems pretty hard.

Something I think is extremely fucked up in general is that if you have millions to throw at a pet cause, you will disproportionately benefit your cause over other causes in a non-democratic manner. That means that every individual and organization involved in fields related to your pet projects are incentivized to focus on your pet projects over others. Because you have so much money, you basically individually shape public policy.

Look at the WHO (source):

...over 80 per cent of WHO’s funding relies on “voluntary contributions,” meaning any amount of money given freely by donors, whether member states, NGOs, philanthropic organisations or other private entities.

The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation alone is responsible for over 88 per cent of the total amount donated by philanthropic foundations to the WHO. Other contributors include the Bloomberg Family Foundation (3.5 per cent), the Wellcome Trust (1.1 per cent) and the Rockefeller Foundation (0.8 per cent).

So yeah, it's great that they donate so much... but that also means they can stop donating... so they have control.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Could you be a little bit more specific with your criticisms of his charity?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

He basically gave $54BN to the "Gates and Melinda Charity".

Guess who controls the charity?

Guess if the "Charity" pays taxes?

It's crazy how fast people simp for billionaires, old evil shitty hated-by-all billionaires too, just because they spend some publicities around.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Does control mean he can use the funds for personal things? Genuine question

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (4 children)

No, it doesn't. And I'd guess that foundation is far more efficient with it's funds than most, given it doesn't need to advertise or ask for money.

People here are just desperate to find some reason to hate the guy.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I think that you don't understand the value of billions of dollars. He can do whatever he wants "for himself" with just $0.1BN. The rest is just a mental hoarding disease IMO.

They love buying companies, patents and so on, just because. Maybe they miss thst rush when they "earned" their first billion or something and, like a junkie, wants to feel it again.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

I don't see how that's an answer to ~~Paul McGann's~~ the question though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So you don't think he should give away any money or what?.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Where on earth did you read he's giving away money?

For example, researchers don't want "his money" because there are so many strings attached that whatever you discover, now it's under Bill Gates ownership.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I definitely don't have much love for the guy but my understanding is the money he put up to fight malaria has saved a bunch of lives.

The current situation as I understand it is that he makes more money from his investments than he gives away each year. If he was committed to giving all his money away like he said, wouldn't he... get on that? He's not getting any younger, why isn't he throwing cash at any good cause?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

To be clear, I'm not "simping" for Bill Gates. No one becomes a billionaire ethically and I don't feel the need to defend him as a person. But I also don't just read a random comment on a website from some nobody without any evidence backing up their claim spouting any such nonsense they want, so I simply asked you to be more specific with your criticisms.

For what it's worth, replying to such a request with the kind of hostility you showed doesn't make me any more likely to take you at your word. You don't come off as knowing what you're talking about, so I don't think you're going to convince many people. Have a good day.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago

Yeah let's hear it. Please elaborate on your accusations and don't be so vague.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Some of that propaganda is in the form of material help to people around the world. Like sure, he's not great, no question. But if every other CEO funded global healthcare to the extent he did to whitewash their own problems, I wouldn't complain. Sure his charity work is by no means ideal, but even the ugly charity he does actually winds up saving lives.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

[citation needed]

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

At least he helped more people than you. So where does that put YOU?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

He’s also harmed far more people than me, and the negative positive aspect is still net negative.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

In camp "BG still has 4240000x times more money than me".

Not to mention he executed the "trolley problem meme" by killing a million to save a million. Now, he did not literally kill people (unlike some other CEOs I've heard about), but he did fuck over a ton of people, all in the name of "Business" (which is PR/propaganda for "greed").

[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Bill Gates' net worth has grown substantially despite his philanthropy, rising from $126.8 billion in early 2023 to $156 billion in December 2024.

Regarding COVID-19 vaccines, Gates actively opposed patent waivers and influenced Oxford University to privatize its vaccine through AstraZeneca rather than keep it open-source. He pushed for maintaining intellectual property rights through COVAX, despite public funding supporting vaccine development.

Not a good guy by any metric.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

Thats a good criticism but the CEO he put in charge of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation went against him and supported waiving the patents anyways, which Biden and the WTO went ahead and did regardless.

His argument against the TRIPS terms was that it wouldn't actually increase production, that every facility capable of producing vaccines was doing so regardless of the patent's costs especially given that they only had to worry about intellectual properties when importing to countries where the patent is held.

He was wrong, I give you that, I think there is no room to be penny pinching and arguing when even 1 more vaccine could have saved lives. However, that doesn't even come close to offsetting the number of lives he has saved or improved by handing out vaccines and medicines for free across Africa. The vast majority of Gates' opponents are generally not fond of Dark Skinned people.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Watching people totally fall for Gates’s incredibly shallow face value self image propaganda bullshit is wild to me. FUCK that guy, so hard. One of the biggest reasons we have enshittification today is this one man.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (3 children)

incredibly shallow face value self image propaganda bullshit is wild to me.

He's given away billions of dollars, and that's face value to you? Besides, he hasn't been in control at Microsoft for decades at this point.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Also I don’t understand how you can defend a man who convinced a bunch of people to not give away the COVID vaccines for free. This is not the actions of a humanitarian. It’s the actions of a monster.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

What is your source for that exactly?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Behind the bastards did a series on Bill Gates. It was a pretty big eye opener for me. All their sources are cited on their podcast. The info is out there if you want it.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (2 children)

We wouldn’t need him to make these donations if he actually paid his fucking taxes is the thing though. And it’s significantly less.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He paid all the taxes he had to. And they just went to America's favourite pass times: war and proxy genocides.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

“He paid all the taxes he had to” is such a ridiculous statement that I won’t be able to bring myself to take you seriously as a person anymore.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Do you know something IRS doesn't?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Eh? Even if he paid a 50% tax rate throughout his life, he'd still be a multi billionaire.

And taxes in the US don't typically end up in the developing world.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

“In fiscal year 2020 (October 1, 2019 - September 30, 2020), the US government allocated $51.05 billion US dollars in economic and military assistance to foreign countries. Of this total, $39.41 billion dollars was spent on economic assistance, $25.64 billion of which was dispersed by USAID.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_foreign_aid

To say that the US doesn’t do foreign aid is just disingenuous. Also to assume that Gates only pays taxes in the US is also disingenuous.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

and that’s face value to you?

It is face value. How did he gain those billion? "Embrace, extend, and extinguish". Never forget.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My boss checks in on me occasionally with directness, and did so the other day:

"viva, how's it going?"
"I want to fight Bill Gates."

This is understood to mean, "windows is fucked. My computer is fucked. All of this massive, utterly brutal buttfucking inconvenience could have been avoided at some point, and now isn't, because [our company] bought so hard into Microsoft's "business solutions" that there's no turning back, and because of the nuances of the problems you've asked me to solve, I am facing said brutal buttfucking inconvenience, and I'm mad about it."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Apologies for detailing the conversation, but I have noticed the implementation and configuration of MS products (something MS has no control over) really impacts their usability. For example, I worked at a soulless corporation that managed to set up PBI and ADO so there was no live feed of data (and they only allowed for the web version of PBI, which reduces functionality substantially). They were also so far behind on Office versions that the employees didn't know more than one person could update a file at a time. There are all sorts of very real reasons to dislike MS, but I do wonder how many people dislike them because of a stupid configuration.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah how dare he run a tax scheme by

*checks notes

Saving millions of people across all of Africa by providing free healthcare for treatable diseases and potential pandemics?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've noticed that some people really don't like Africans. I believe there's even a word for such behaviour, don't remember which one right now though...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (3 children)

“Not liking Bill Gates is racist” is such a stupid take that I don’t even know where to begin man.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He was kind of a prick becoming a billionaire, so his is more of a redemption arc than a hero's journey.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Possibly, but still better than most.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago