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[–] [email protected] 184 points 4 months ago (3 children)

To the people thinking this means Russia will no longer be able to interfere with other countries over the internet: you are probably mistaken. Disinformation teams will still be connected to the internet. All this will mean is Russians having even less exposure to the world outside of what little Vladolf wants them to see.

It will probably make the European CS2 servers less toxic though.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Less hackers in games?

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Less hackers in games?

Half of the people in Jita 4-4 disappear overnight.

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[–] [email protected] 131 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Russia tests cutting ~~itself~~ their citizens off from the rest of the internet

The state would certainly continue to interfere with the rest.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

In the long term is will fuck over their ability to hack stuff. You're essentially ruining people's ability to develop talent at tech. Even if u want to train them in it as military, it would be new to them.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

Nah, they'd just do what NK does and pull out the "brightest" and train them in cyber

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If everybody but the state is blocked, then any connections from Russia would be pretty fucking obviously the state. Honestly, that's the best thing that could happen, since it would make figuring out what they are doing easy as fuck. But I have no doubt they are smart enough to just send their teams to China or something like North Korea does.

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[–] [email protected] 109 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

Wouldn’t it collapse their economy? Like how many Russians are digital sex workers selling content to the rest of the world? And doesn’t a shitton of money flow into Russia via ransomware

[–] [email protected] 56 points 4 months ago

Shh. Just smile and wave.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

Like how many Russians are digital sex workers selling content to the rest of the world?

I think those will move somewhere with Internet connectivity.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Wow, you are really brainwashed if you think the macro-economy of a country depend on these...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

No lie. Russia is a petro state above all else.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 71 points 3 months ago (6 children)

As a queer person in a place currently under russian control, I find a lot of the comments in favour of the censorship problematic. Being gay in public is illegal here, so a lot of our queer people find communities on the Internet. Being cut off from those would be terrible.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sorry you’ve been saddled with that, friend. I hope things get better in Russia (or Ukraine, Transnistria, or Georgia, think that covers all the places they occupy) in your lifetime

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

I hope I'll escape before it collapses, otherwise life will be unnecessarily difficult for a decade or two

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Russian Federation? M-more, more like, like... Russian De-Federation, am I right?

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 months ago (5 children)

cs.rin.ru and rutracker ;_;

Also many people from the cracking scene y general.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 months ago (4 children)
  • Again.

They do this every few years.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago

Fuck. Please don't take down Sci hub... I know there are mirrors elsewhere, should I be worried?

I'm not even going to make the usual joke, by saying sarcastically that I don't use it and wouldn't recommend it to anyone. It's the biggest contributor to scientific progress in the last decade and I'm tired of pretending it's not

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yeah I'm sure going full north Korea and cutting of everyone below the government is gonna work well

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (20 children)

Depends upon how you measure "well".

The Kim dynasty is still going strong, three generations in. Odds are that the Kims and probably a number of people at the top would be worse-off if things changed. From their perspective, things probably are going pretty well in North Korea.

Of course, the standard of living of the North Korean public is pretty horrendous, the economy is undeveloped, and North Korea doesn't have a lot of international clout. If your metric is whether the typical person in society is living well or whether the country is powerful, wealthy, or secure, then things aren't going very well.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

NK never had Internet. The people never lost anything. Everyone in Russia is online. They might not have toilets, but they have mobile data.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (13 children)

Lmao is russia gonna be even worse than China? At least China still somewhat have access to foreign websites (emphasis on the "somewhat").

Edit: Also, aren't telephones still working? Just call a friend/relative outside of the country to obtain information, or ask someone who has a friend/relative out of the country and ask for information on your behalf.

Have they banned mail yet? Try using mail lol.

They're gonna need to do a nationwide lockdown to stop all information.

(Funny thing is, no matter how hard China tries, I (I'm in the US) can still call relative in China and tell them all the info that the CCP has hidden from them)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The smart ones all know how to use VPNs as well. They know what's up.

Crazy thing is they only need to control the masses who are mostly uneducated or don't care enough to figure out what's going on. Turns out that even the USA has a massive group of the latter type.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

No offense but this is incredibly short sighted and you're assuming the average person seeks out new information. We really don't and are more exposed to it in our daily lives of consumption. In 5, 10, 15 years it will increasingly become a problem being cut off from the outside world. Even now many believe the propaganda

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (4 children)

This sucks, I've met so many very cool and interesting Russian people. The internet is meant to connect people not box them in an echo chamber.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago

Finally, I'll have decent teammates in Countrstrike 2.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Their hacking teams will still be connected.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I meam, the rest of the world could cut them off.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

No, let's not encourage this even as a joke.

All cutting Russia off from the rest of the internet will do is making them more radicalized and give even less opportunities for good ideas and good people to fight back.

That's why China does it. That's why Iran did it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

Good

Edit: actually not good. Disinformation agencies will still have access, so hexbear and .lm will remain. Only citizens will be punished and will be cut from non-prpaganda sources.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

Yup, it's the opposite of good. Russian citizens are getting screwed here.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

It will be a dark day for piracy...

Luckily, libgen and sci hub are not based there

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

I hope rutracker will stay available :P

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

tbf the internet is going to consist mostly of 3 things in the future:

  • propaganda
  • scientific information
  • funny cat videos

So I guess it's not really a surprise that this is happening.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Gladly, no more fucking Putin Bots.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago

Their bots will access the net

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

I'm sure they will still be around.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (6 children)

The worst (to me, anyway) part is that a LOT of pirate stuff will disappear if the russian internet gets gated

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

So turning it into an intranet.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

They're really into cable cutting these days. Maybe we should help.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Wait, so just like that, we're gonna lose access to lemmy.ml and hexbear? Oh no! Woe, woe unto us! How will we survive this?

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