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[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 52 points 2 months ago (4 children)

New? Aren't they the old nazi party too?

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 months ago

Being a Nazi isnt a yes or no thing, it's a spectrum of how much Nazi we have in us....

  • Republicans
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[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 50 points 2 months ago (6 children)

They are fascists. They are not nazis. Nazis ate WWII era German fascists that attempted to create the ubermensch and create a 1000 year reich.

Nazis are a different flavor of fascism

[–] the_three_tomatoes@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (6 children)

I agree that they are facists but they seem to have an incredible focus on Hitler and Nazism imported from Nazi Germany.

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[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Fascism is like cancer of humanity, it has been on remission for a while and now its starting to come back possibly even worse because it couldn't be eradicated when weakened.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It always holds appeal for some especially people born into wealth that are personally insecure. I suspect that's why American schools dont really teach kids about the fundamentals of fascist philosophy.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 months ago

Fate and direction of humanity might depend on how well americans resist now. america has way too much military power and nukes.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They don't teach them this because it would lead them to believe we have been a fascist country since the creation of the military industrial complex. That is not exactly what we want our students learning.

Much like we whitewash all of history to make ourselves out to be the good guys and not the genocidal death cult maniacs we are.

It is not like we have not been warned for several decades now what has been happening.

https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/president-dwight-d-eisenhowers-farewell-address

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[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Who cares? They are Nazis as far as idiot Americans are concerned. The asterix you seem to feel is necessary is not.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (4 children)

If they aren't Nazis, why are they running the same playbook Nazis did at the beginning and PERFORMING NAZI SALUTES WITH THE PRESIDENTIAL SEAL IN FRONT OF THEM AT PRESIDENTIAL INAUGURATIONS?

If they don't want to be Nazis, just regular fascists, maybe they shouldn't use Nazi salutes.

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[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (13 children)
[–] KnightontheSun@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 41 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Fascism is here.

All the signs are present.

Doesn't matter that it's America. Fascism can happen anywhere, at any time.

Purchase a firearm. Learn to use it.

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[–] cheeseburger@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I swear back in the 20th century there were a lot of regular people around the world who would not hesitate to beat the shit out of any Nazi they came across. Where'd they all go?

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Dead, they are dead.

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[–] don@lemm.ee 15 points 2 months ago (6 children)
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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Pretty damn sure they've always been the American Nazi/Klan party.

[–] VerifiedSource@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They aren’t Nazis, far from it. Using that kind of hyperbolic language and forced equivalence hinders you from understanding how Trumpism/MAGA actually works. Trumpism has some similarities with fascism, but it’s fully its own extremely American populist personality cult.

The ideology and policies of the Nazis were on a whole different level.

Trumpism doesn’t need to be fully fascist, because it managed to gain all branches of government through elections. Trump is actually popular and democratically legitimized.

If your analysis remains at Nazis! you will never understand how to fight them. It has failed as a political tactic for years. They laugh at it, and rightly so.

[–] Naia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 2 months ago

I feel like this kind of reductive language isn't helpful. They are nazis in the sense that mstters.

Nazi has for a while been another word for fascist, or at least a particular brand of it. The Republican party as a whole has slowly been moving in this direction my entire life.

Trump being too stupid to play the long game managed to build a cult around him by speed running fascism, but there is nothing he stands for that the Republican party hasn't had a long hystory of standing for.

People denying the facism is how we got here.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Nazi/Fascist are interchangeable because the most recent extreme fascist threat on a large-scale was from Nazis. Whether you like it or not, the two terms are interchangeable in our society.

The Trump Party has undeniably embraced fascism. It's acceptable to call them Nazis. They're running the same playbook the Nazis were at the beginning. They're PERFORMING NAZI SALUTES WITH THE PRESIDENTIAL SEAL IN FRONT OF THEM AT PRESIDENTIAL INAUGURATIONS.

Stop trying to distract.

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just because we do Nazi Salutes and make Nazis feel comfortable DOESNT make us Nazis and makes YOU a Nazi actually!

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago

Reminds me of "Antifa are the actual fascists". They do love to twist everything.

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

“Are we the baddies?”

- The USA

“Aww cute. Who taught them to ask that?”

- Me.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

OK slow poke. You finally got there.

Thank you for documenting the downfall.

[–] NudeNewt@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Remember folks you skin the hair off a Nazi from the front to back so you can see the visible anguish and dismay as the pot meets the kettle 🥰❤

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[–] Drusas@fedia.io 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, and what can we do about it?

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (10 children)

Democrats are Nazis, too. They’re arming literal Nazi military forces, and just armed a genocide for over a year.

It is as communists theorists always predicted would happen. As capitalism falls, the capitalists embrace fascism.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (15 children)

Nazism is an ideology, not a synonym for being complicit in a genocide.

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[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (6 children)

You're the kind of person that would watch a Republican eat the still-beating heart out of the chest of a child and ask why the Democrats are letting this happen, aren't you?

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[–] SuperEars@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

The Whitest Kids You Know Hitler Rap feels awfully familiar for the times.

You know how hard it is to deal with your parents being nazis? Most your family? Can't blame some americans for being too ashamed to admit they're disgusting. Don't worry, your going to get that special inheritance and be another version of nasty until we put you in the ground too.

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