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[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 243 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

Journalists: It appeared to be a South African karate chop of some kind

[–] 4oreman@lemy.lol 70 points 2 months ago

Punches In Afrikaans

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[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 213 points 2 months ago (7 children)

It has been maddening how corporate media has been trying to tell us it was anything but a Nazi salute. I'm reminded of the Star Trek episode Chain of Command Part II, "There are four lights!"

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 51 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Imagine what else they've been lying about.

[–] Zementid@feddit.nl 31 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Lots of sex stuff with kids... some accidental murder and drug binges... the typical conservative stuff they project on others.

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[–] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 64 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

White power is in the White House…quite terrifying and embarrassing

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago

It's been in the White House goddammit, they're just being open about it now.

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[–] morphballganon 55 points 2 months ago (7 children)

He claimed it was a "my heart goes out to you" sentiment.

But the "my heart goes out to you" gesture is palm-up...

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 41 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Generally you don't yeet your heart out with such force either

[–] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'll give him this. That shit was crisp. Almost as if he stood in front of a mirror practicing it over and over.

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[–] Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean it just doesn't matter what it was "supposed" to be. How many times have we seen things that are sooort of close to the nazi salute so people are like "hey better not do that." And this is stuff that's like basically just anything holding your hand in the air. This was straight up the salute lol I mean there's no two ways about it. The question is what the intention was. And if it wasn't intended to be some sort of nod to Nazism or fascism or something, why in the flying fuck would you do it?! lol I mean everyone in the literal world knows it would prolly be a bad idea to do anything like that but the self proclaimed Uber genius, smartest man in the world, ultra mega mastermind, God gamer musk... It just slips his mind?

[–] fosho@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 months ago (6 children)

so either it was an intended nazi salute or this guy is a fucking moron, or both.

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[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 44 points 2 months ago (3 children)

He's basically an edge lord 4-channer, Nazi saluting to: "own the libs" is sort of on brand.

I don't think he's a dyed in the wool Führer-lover. I do think he's a hyper insecure, spoiled, man-child with enough ties to the far right to idolize "anti-social behavior" and think he's the hottest shit ever to pull off such a "based" stunt.

A poser; doing loser shit opening the door for someone/something much worse because his idiot brain thinks he's being cute.

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 53 points 2 months ago (6 children)

You basically just described every fascist/Nazi ever while arguing that he's not really a Nazi just "edgy." Let's not make this same mistake again, hyper insecure spoiled man-children with enough ties to the far right to idolize anti-social behavior ARE NAZIS.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I don’t think he’s a dyed in the wool Führer-lover.

No, of course not. He's a dyed-in-the-wool Afrikkkaner. It's a Dutch/English strain of Fascism far more in line with the American brand than the German/Nordic Central European brand.

A poser; doing loser shit opening the door for someone/something much worse because his idiot brain thinks he’s being cute.

A professional sycophant and corrupt corporate hack who has made a cool trillion selling exploding cars, crashing spaceships, and non-existent subway systems. He's anything but a loser, as he's perfectly hacked the modern capitalist system.

The Nazi pastiche he's adopted is intended to keep those super-sized government contracts and cheap private loans coming. Same reason he pays teams of pro-gamers to run his video game accounts and throws the biggest, most debauched orgies in Silicon Valley or Austin, TX. Same reason he nearly killed himself and Peter Thiel doing burnouts in a brand new McLauren.

TrueAnon Podcast has a great three-part series "The Lamest Show On Earth" that takes a deep dive into Musk's background. Does a great job of laying out who this guy is and how he's successfully grifted his way to the pinnacle of the western business ziggurat. The most that can be said of him is that he loves to dominate other people. The explicit flavor of fascism is secondary.

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 44 points 2 months ago (10 children)

Everyone knows it was a Nazi Salute.

Nazi's just denying it because 1) they are not quite at the point where they can sieg heil while marching down mainstreet just yet and 2) because it amuses them to see the left try to desperately convince them it was a nazi salute.

All your desperate justification, facts, evidence, etc?

It wont make a nazi not a nazi.

but it will amuse them, and exhaust you.

Its time to stop using words against nazis, and go back to using forms are communication that carry a more physical finality to their arguments.

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[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 37 points 2 months ago (12 children)

Inventing a time machine that lets you go back and kill hitler before he gets in power is a very common power fantasy.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Time travel guy failed by a couple of centimeters.

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[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Wrote up a summary months ago (with reputable sources!) and warned about Nazis too and was permabanned from Lemmy news and politics for it.

Idk man, you can tell people stuff, but it's so hard for them to access what's real right now. There's a concerted online effort to suppress factual info.

https://lemmy.world/comment/13431373

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[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

They are not the baddies because of a Nazi salute. They are baddies because of shitload of other things. Which I'm starting to think the Nazi solute is a distraction from. I see so many posts about the salute and the "Gulf of America" and about assigned-at-conception gendering, and almost nothing about the executive orders that actually have implications.

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[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 28 points 2 months ago

The fact this is a debatable thing is the shame of humanity.

You know what's even worst? ADL.

[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago (7 children)

I searched that exact tweet up and it was posted by three different accounts with the exact same wording.

Me thinks this is no real.

OP you got a source? Because if this guy is who he claims he is then all of his work is being called into question and I would be very curious to see what other incorrect takes he's got.

[–] Skipcast@lemmy.world 64 points 2 months ago (30 children)

Bro saying it wasn't a nazi salute 💀💀💀

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The source could still be totally bogus.

This is why I hate Twitter, especially Twitter screenshots like this without even enough info to easily look up the user.

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[–] 4oreman@lemy.lol 22 points 2 months ago (9 children)

now now, this is no place for fact checking

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[–] Geometrinen_Gepardi@sopuli.xyz 21 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Logical fallacy: Argument from authority.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 32 points 2 months ago (20 children)

There's a difference between an authority figure and someone with expertise in a subject. This individual isn't using a position of power to supplement his argument, he is just detailing his experience.

People really need to stop treating logical fallacy like they're harry potter spells.

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[–] VerifiedSource@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It’s not a full on Nazi salute as the words „Heil“, „Heil Hitler“, or „Sieg Heil“ aren’t used. However, it is a full on salute in its tradition. A right wing oligarch holding a victory speech espousing conservative revolution and a glorious future are in the vein of the fascism of old.

Trumpism doesn’t need to even express itself as fully fascist. The popular support, the support of the tycoons of industry, institutional acquiescence, lack of organized resistance, means he doesn’t need to go full authoritarian.

The ideological flexibility of Trumpism is enormous. Allegiance to Trump and MAGA is pretty much it. The rest of the ideology is dynamically formed by sycophants looking for Trump‘s favor. The post ironic attitude means immunity to value based criticism.

Elon Musk is a mix of minister for propaganda and court jester at the same time.

[–] ziggurat@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I know I won't change your mind by disagreeing with you regarding the nazi salute. But I want to say that I am very grossed out by all the apologists defending him, even just a little bit.

Just remember the quote, for evil men to succeed, good men just have to do nothing

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