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[–] [email protected] 159 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Until it eventually does come to steam. Please don't listen to these fuckers. They will say whatever they can for profit. It wouldn't be the first time these people have lied about this exact thing only for the game to come to steam a year later.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Maybe, but its on fitgirl now if they don't want your money

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I'm afraid to ask what that is.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 111 points 1 month ago

I confirm that I'm never going to buy it then.

[–] [email protected] 88 points 1 month ago

I'll buy it when it comes to GOG then.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The game wasn't even profitable after a year as a result of not being on Steam, according to the article. Pretty interesting

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago

I guess they don't want it to be profitable then. Maybe over the next 10 years it will break even on Epic.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Epic profittability is on Fortnite; there will be lot of skin based on Alan Wake franchise and, also, Fortnite ads everytime you launch AW2 form their launcher etc.

...as for Alan Wake franchise itself, well it goes in the epic games store marketing black hole

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Cool. I guess I won't be buying it then and will simply sail the seas when I finally feel like playing it after all the games I bought on steam and gog.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

Yup, any “never” decision under modern capitalism should be treated at “within this quarter.” All that matters is quarterly growth, and all company decisions will change every quarter

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 month ago

Epic Games? The place with all the free games? Why would I buy something from the free store?

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 month ago

That's okay, since I am never coming to Epic Games. Seems only fair.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

In other words: Sweeney still can't get people to use his inferior service. I can't wait to see him cry about Valve's alleged anti-competitive behaviour yet again.

Wish I could just wire money straight to Remedy. Best I could do was buy Control again on GOG and consider my seafaring soul free of sin.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 month ago

Shame, I'm never buying a game from the Epic Store.

Oh well.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

This is the bullshit that makes me hate Epic games. I want Fortnite to die already so Tim Sweeney can eff right off.

A exclusive war only one person is waging...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I dislike Epic as much as the next guy, but he's not the only one waging it, lol. Try to find any of Valve's games on the Epic marketplace.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Not really comparable IMO. Epic has paid devs/publishers in the past for not releasing on steam. Gearbox, Ubisoft etc

Nobody is mad that fortnite isn't on steam.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago

Sucks for Remedy then, since they won't be getting my money.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago

What a shame, it's in my top 3 games I've ever played, but I pirated it because Epic app sucks ass. Was going to buy it once it was on Steam.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (10 children)

This only hurts us, gamers. Stop this exclusivity BS and be competitive with better features, customer service and convenience.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

That's fine, I will never purchase Alan Wake 2 then

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

It'll eventually be included in a giveaway anyways like Control was. So if I haven't bought it by now I'm fine waiting for the giveaway.

[–] Big_Boss_77 28 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Epic actually financed Remedy's development of the game, as opposed to swooping in at the last minute to offer a timed-exclusivity deal. In that case I was fine buying the game on their platform if it meant the game got to exist at all. After all I do not expect Valve to sell their games on another platform than their own.

Don't get me wrong: I'd rather the game was sold on Steam, or even better, DRM-less on GOG. I did wait for a number of those timed exclusives to find their way on Steam or other stores (Borderlands 3, Kena, Journey, Control, Hades, etc). It's a shame that so many people will not get to experience AW2 because of its delivery platform, because it's a damn unique game.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

As much as I hate Epic, I actually bought AW2 based on that logic but ended up refunding it because, and I can not stress this enough, FUCK ALWAYS ONLINE REQUIREMENTS ON PURELY OFFLINE GAMES. I refuse to pay for an offline game that locks me out when my internet isn't working...doubly so when the pirated version works perfectly fine without internet.

P.S. I also refuse to pay for single player games with arbitrary online "features" made to force a DRM check, or games published by cunts that do layoffs and shutter studios while posting record profits but that's a different conversation.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

mfw i don't pay them money

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

That’s what they said about red dead redemption too

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

Oh well, there are other games to buy.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hopium take 1:
There's no reason they'd reveal their plans to bring it to steam early and cannibalize on the epic store sales

Hopium take 2:
Even if they don't have plans right now if they ever want some quick money to meet targets or something it's the prime candidate

Hopium take 3:
When or if remedy starts making money (like from control 2) they might buy the publishing rights back

Hopium take 4:
It'll run better anyways when Alan wake 2 remastered comes out in 10 years

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Option #4 sounds most realistic.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Damn, and I was just about to break my "have never played Alan wake" streak...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Why do people love Steam's DRM on everything, online only gameplay? Why do people love Steams totalitarian control and extortion deals?

If people could built their own Steam client, it wouldn't be so bad. I use Heroic on Windows for both Epic and GOG and get new games through Heroic so there can't be telemetry or data gathering. Why won't Valve allow a libre/free software Steam client to play games and let go of what people choose to install on their computer. I'm nit asking for DRM-free games, I'm asking ti stop dictator how I am allowed to play games.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Because Steam's DRM is entirely unobtrusive, it doesn't require online-only gameplay and the customer experience is excellent.

When Epic tries to compete with Steam they don't look to make a better user experience, instead they bribe developers for exclusivity deals to force people on their platform if they want to play a game on release.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Valve made it super convinient for their customers and they also took steps to encourage content creation with SFM, Source Engine, sharing their own assets. They created working cloud saving and mod sharing solutions, greenlighting a bunch of indies based on votes and being on the side of the customer in disputes over refunds with 2hr rule becomingthe new norm. For years, they provided and improved their service, so it's rare to see anyone complaining about that.

Ah, and Epic killed UT4 in beta when they found their initial zombie game mode that became Fortnite gave them that much cash they could start their own marketplace with regular giveaways and exclusives going on for years. I'm fucking pissed at them for that even now. It is irrational and personal, but Valve didn't kill my favorite game series, it's the opposite, since they kept slowly releasing and constantly updating Dota, CS, create Alyx, keep TF2 alive, and I'm only sad Alien Swarm would never see new content. In game studios and game marketplaces, Valve are golden.

But coming back to your initial displeasment with them, the funny thing is a lot of Steam games don't need Steam to launch. Unless devs implement some hooks and DRMs themselves, you can just launch their EXE file. Nobody really checks that, but that's the truth, and I've seen some lists of games that don't do that. On top of that, 99% offline games can be launched without internet with Steam only, you can even backup and then install some game on your PC offline if your client knows you own it. And don't forget family sharing - although they promised to rework it, I, my partner and our friends used it a lot, and although you can't use a game from a shared library when you are offline, if the owner plays it offline you can play it too at the same time without messing with each others' gameplay. This lazy implementation of DRM with many workarounds and general respect to even the sleakiest, cheating customer is why I still buy games there.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

sweeney is that you?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

its the best platform I use to organize my games that only gets better and doesn't actively try to screw me with bullshit at every turn. once someone outdoes steam, I'll reward that company with my money.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

🏴‍☠️

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Here's the thing about CEOs: they're beholden to a board of people who like money

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Damn shame the decision Remedy made to get the funding from Epic looks like it has backfired (since as I understand it AW2 still hasn't turned a profit). I truly hope this doesn't affect their upcoming games as Alan Wake 2 is one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had and I want for nothing more than Remedy to keep doing what they're doing.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

I guess I'll just wait till you dipshits give it to me for free or I'll pirate it if I ever get the urge to play it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Guess I'll never get it then.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

NOOOOOOO!!!! What the hell am I supposed to do with this useless PC now?!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago
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