It's a nice thought, but unless toppling Tesla also somehow reverses destruction of the public education system, and also something about the complex systematic, and very much intentional, polarization of individuals through social media feeds then this won't stop Republicans or Russia in the end.
this post was submitted on 11 Mar 2025
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Think of it more as exercise. It takes a bit for people to get rolling. If we can take down tesla, then we learn we can do more. Revolution doesn't start at the finish line.
This exactly, and more people need to understand it. A one day boycott of Amazon doesn't do much to Amazon, especially since many people will simply defer spending to the next day. What it does do is give a simple goal for people to participate who haven't done this sort of thing before. Then you expand it to longer time periods and more targets.
The current Amazon boycott is 7 days and isn't over until the 14th, BTW.
I'm just saying we need to know the route to run the marathon, otherwise we shouldn't expect to win any prizes by the end of it.
Defeating Putin, Trump, and Elon Musk is going to have specific steps to accomplish. Educate, Organize, and Unify opposition, and this will absolutely involve playing politics which a lot of people abhor. This isn't one of those "hit problems with club until it stops moving" scenarios. At least not until we take away the enemy's bigger club.
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Idk man melon seems pretty upset rn I’d say carry right on chaps looks like you’re going the right way o7
Right, Twitter should be in there too.
Also worth noting, Tesla’s stock price skyrocketed when it was made clear Elon would take over the government. It is now basically back to where it was before this.
I will get excited when it starts losing years worth of value.
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It shouldn't be Russians, but Putin
Edit: You know what, some Russians are good people. Not everyone in Russia is a bootlicker
Of course this is true but when youre in a conflict you dont have the luxury of making distictions.
This is like Americans reminding us 'not all Americans are like this'. Its like, yeah bro we know but your country is actively threatening ours, so tough.
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I'm really confused as to why 'Russians' are generalized as the last domino here
Like, could have easily been 'Putin', but even then are we content with stopping at removing despots? Let's at least aim a bit higher, maybe 'oligarchy', or even 'capital owners' if we're being ambitious.
Yeah. I've no problem with the Russian civilians as an American. But I do have a problem with Putin as he seems intent to make himself everyone's problem just like our wannabe dictators.
Fuck Tesla. Fuck Elon. Fuck Trump. Fuck corpo pigs
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Capitalism. Everyday russians have nothing to do with the problem.
Because for a disturbingly large segment of the American population, the Cold War staying cold made it not really register as over.
It should say Kremlin, imo.
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man. i dont think any of this would be happening if people weren't fucking lazy and just voted in November. like god damn who cares if the line is long for one night.
There are numerous ideological and philosophical frameworks that attempt to explain how fascism takes rise, so why do you just blame it on laziness?
Did Hitler come to power because of German industrialization, German embarrassment from WWI, the great depression, and other global economic hardships, or did Hitler come to power simply because Germans were lazy and didn't vote?
Our turn towards fascism was inevitable, and it can be explained better than with some nebulous concept of "laziness".
At the very minimum, start asking yourself why Americans are not enthusiastic about voting.
Because laziness gave it the win.
Lots of things can give rise to fascism, but when people stay at home they give it a free pass to take control. We had the easiest chance of hitting the brakes.
Voting is EASY.
All we had to do was vote. If trump doesn’t leave then it’s going to cost lives to change. Damn fool to think otherwise.
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They purged voter roll, but only for democrats.
Technically legal.
That happens every single election. How about, instead of attacking people who are rightfully unconvinced this system works, you attack the people actually doing the fascism.
You’re like a fuckin’ Russian bot, only helping to divide. Fuckin’ dumbass democrats, man. This is why you lose.
You insult this person and accuse them and dividing, only to say "fuckin Democrats, this is why you always lose".
Who's dividing here again, chum? Practice what you preach
I'm not a Democrat and I share their sentiment.
80 million of y'all didn't show up and instead of looking at ourselves, we just blame the Dems for not matching our purity politics enough.
80 million didn't show. They had weeks to turn in a vote via mail or just finding a local place to do it.
We all had options. 80 million decided to do nothing and they share just as much the blame and anyone for this.
It’s a common democrat knee jerk reaction to blame anyone but the perpetrators, that’s why. It’s course correcting.
And show me an election that doesn’t have similar numbers of non-voters. They aren’t to blame. People vote when they get inspired. And not being another person is not very inspiring.
They were supposed to vote to save what? As far as I can tell, the vast majority of people are struggling and want change. People are on the edge and are kept just complacent enough to not fall off.
I’ll say it again: Keep blaming the nonvoters and you will continue to lose. INSPIRE THEM INSTEAD.
There are a LOT of factors that deserve them, and non voters are one of them.
Keep blaming other people for your inaction, and see how that works out.
Vote to save WHAT? Trans rights? Gay rights? The fuckin first amendment??? Social Security?
I'm glad you aren't directly affected by any of this and therefore justified not doing what you can with what you have to keep other groups safe
Hope the weather is good up there on your high horse.
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It's really just X. Focus on X imo.
You mean Twitter, right?
Which foreigners are we gonna decide is the reason the US isn't a democracy to hide the fact the state is owned by the ruling class next? I vote for going back to the Japanese
I bet it's gonna be China, they've been setting that stage for years
You even see people eating it up on Lemmy.
Since some people in this thread need to hear it: China is not your enemy
Until my fellow citizens have their basic needs met I will assume anyone not actively working towards that goal is my enemy. Rich people in China are gaming the system to consolidate wealth just like our billionaires are. That doesn't make them worse or better than us but in the context of my immediate concerns it makes them less relevant.
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Swap Republicans and Trump
Trump basically is the republican party anymore
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Is ok to be xenophobe against Russians now?
There are plenty of Russians who are wonderful persons.
It's like judging all Americans for what Trump is doing.
It's like judging all Americans for what Trump is doing.
In case you haven't noticed, that is what is happening
There are also plenty of Russians invading their neighbour, slaughtering thousands of innocent people.
Just like the complacent Americans sitting by watching their "leader" destroy the civility of the free world. The Russians are no better.
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The hate to Russia is somewhat misplaced, Putinism is more or less a by product of America. It will be less a problem once Americans stop hate themselves.
What a dogshit take.
So it’s America’s fault Putin wants to reclaim old Soviet land. What kind of weak feeble minded child is Putin if that is her motivation.
It's America's fault that America is turning fascist. You don't just get to run a 200 year political experiment built on genocide under the guidance of white landowners, and then start scapegoating Russians once that project inevitably and predictably goes fascists. This is American exceptionalism.
Lol, and I'm sure your country or any country other than the US wasn't built on blood. Fuck outta here with your Russian apologist bs.
"The wholesale American genocide of Native Americans is Ruzzian propaganda!"
Way to intentionally miss the point. Expected from an .ml loser.
What point? That in order for any country to form, it must carry out a genocide so effective that it inspires Hitler? And I am the apologist?
Your comment is honestly psychopathic in the way you use "blood" as a euphemism for a genocide that killed some 10 million Native Americans.
Like... what is your point though? "Abolish all states"? While that would be based, I'm afraid that's not what you meant.
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I’m doing my part!
Welcome to liberal q-anon.
Where we go one, we bicker incessantly?
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