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[–] [email protected] 102 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

The fact that this guy posts this on X with a paid-for blue checkmark tells you everything about why Trump won and why he'll keep winning. The left has made almost no effort to win the information space. They just lose and then celebrate when some of the harm falls back on MAGA.

How about his for a change: Win. Try to win. Stop kowtowing to right wing information propaganda spaces that stifle the left like X, Fox News, and Rogan. Fight them like the right fights the left in the information space. True, you won't get to celebrate when your neighbor suffers from Trump, but it'll be because he didn't vote Trump in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I saw the "Dems are the Uvalde cops Magas are the shooters." And goddamn it salpped ever since. You guys need to get a real 3rd party that is real grassroots socialist.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 days ago (14 children)

This is a liberal account, he's not a leftist. Leftists have been in the streets, while liberals remain in the tweets.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I bet his flag is down just for selling purposes. He probably blames Joe Biden.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 6 days ago (8 children)

How the fuck did democrats go from the party that hates misinformation to the party that believes implausible posts on a platform known to be full nonsense because it fits a cute narrative?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Ah, the classic anything I don't agree with is fake news.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (3 children)
  • On Twitter, the site known for random misinformation
  • OP knows their neighbor well enough to know where they work, despite that not being nearly as common these days and OP not seeming like the kind of guy that would befriend Trump supporters
  • OP's neighbor is one of the minority of federal workers who are probationary employees, because that's the only group Elon has been able to really fire right now
  • OP's neighbor simultaneously being a homeowner with a previously-stable job, but being in such dire financial straits that simply missing two paychecks results in a complete crashout.
  • OP's neighbor then selling the house instead of taking advantage of the large number of hardship programs that would be available for someone with issues paying their mortgage, at least temporarily.

Like is this possible? Yes. However it's highly implausible, and conveniently matches the whole "stupid Drunpf supporters regret their decision" narrative that both Lemmy and reddit absolutely adore. To take this at any sort of face value without any genuine shred of concrete evidence is insane.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

OP's neighbor is one of the minority of federal workers who are probationary employees, because that's the only group Elon has been able to really fire right now

This part isn't true. At this point, probably over half of the fired workers were permanent, from agencies that are closing or are implementing RIFs. Most are still drawing paychecks, but budgeting does (and should) change once someone is informed that they'll be out of a job in the next month or two.

For many agencies, these satellite offices often have monopsony power over workers of certain job skills. NOAA and the National Weather Service employ a lot of people who have job functions not really available from another employer, especially without moving. The same is true of NIH and CDC. HHS just announced the closure of several lawyer offices, and those specialists are going to have a bit of a rough time finding replacement jobs. USDA is a big organization, and have a ton of economists and scientists who would basically have to take a big pay cut if they're laid off in this environment.

You're downplaying just how devastating some of these job losses are, by ignoring that many of these people moved to these cities in reliance on the job stability they expected, and downplaying the number of people affected and the length of tenure these people have.

I don't have a strong view of whether this story is literally true of this specific account's neighbor. But I can tell you that versions of this story have happened to thousands already, and will happen to tens of thousands more.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

Everyone is assuming he lost the house. Maybe he got a better job and is moving to a new and better house, closer to the new job

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (4 children)

How did getting laid off during cutbacks go from commonplace to implausible? Are you taking the wrong meds?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

ask any millenial what all our parents were telling us until they got on facebook.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

sad stuff... people voting against their interests

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

They vote as they do because they're so impressionable. It's also why there's a huge overlap of religious nutjobs and Republicans.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

They vote as they do because they’re so impressionable.

Yup.

But I have zero sympathy for them because this isn't the olden days where someone had to travel to a library or enroll in a university and move away from home to gain access to knowledge. It's all there at their fingertips. They just have to be responsible enough to plug in to reasonable sources. And they aren't. They allow hate and fear to guide their decisions.

It's 2025. There's zero excuses to be ignorant now. So they can suffer and I'll feel nothing for them.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 days ago (1 children)

A Twitter checkmark? In 2025?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Kinda cheapens the post a bit.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 days ago (8 children)

Please remember it is important to not gloat or "I told you so". This person, for a reason of which does not matter, has decided to exit the cult. This person needs support and praise for their bravery. I don't care if it is for a selfish reason.... ultimately they made it out, their mind is free! That is cause for celebration.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 days ago

Is there any evidence they decided to exit the cult? People will paint the walls beige when selling a house, and that doesn't mean they don't still like whatever red and green Christmas themed house they had to start with. Pulling down a flag while selling the house you can't afford doesn't actually mean you wouldn't still vote for him.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Idk seems like that decision was made FOR him and not by him

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (6 children)

Heres the problem. We kept the gloating and "I told you so" to a minimum after Trump round 1 and the Civil war.

Hammer it home. They need to know Every. Fucking. Minute. Of every. Fucking. Day. That the choices they made got them fired, took their job, and ruined their country. Almost everyone knew it was going to happen and warned them, and they just dug deeper with their knee-jerk "nuh-uh" fake news 3rd grade playground bully logic. They need to know beyond a doubt that they are stupid, short-sighted, easily manipulated bigots. Why? Because the only way they can change it and do better is if they fucking know it, believe it, and see that they need to change it.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago (15 children)

Trump crap was taken down on any neighbor’s homes (and there weren’t many) except one (and they have it kinda hidden) after 2020. Anyone supporting Trump at this point is an idiot, cruel, or both.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago

Agent Krasnov is, by ALL objective measures, the most prolific Traitor in American history. In fact, he has probably caused more damage than ALL other American traitors COMBINED.

At this point, anyone who still supports HitlerPig is as much an authentic traitor as he is. I only wish the very worst outcomes for them. Losing their jobs and homes is the mildest punishment they deserve.

I operate a business, and I havent had to hire anyone lately. But if I were, I would absolutely ask them who they supported for president in 2020 and 2024, which is perfectly legal. Anyone who voted for HitlerPig would be immediately, and rudely, be rejected. I won't employ anyone with such obviously poor Critical Thinking Skills.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago

Trump support has been on full display in my area without interruption. "Don't blame me, I voted for Trump" are the ones I'm keeping my eyes on the most, waiting for them to disappear.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 days ago (1 children)

All my Trump neighbors are rental tenants so they get shuffled in and out every year by their landlords. A few MAGA banner fliers as well as a few families with small kids all got kicked out my neighborhood this last year for Sale signs to go up.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They were tricked by a propaganda machine. They may have been willing participants but had they known everything they never would have voted against their own interests. Yet every country in the western hemisphere, South America, Africa, Asia, and well everywhere doesn't have anti propaganda laws. If you're rich you can buy influence in any neo liberal country. Why is that?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago (5 children)

How do you construct anti-propaganda laws that can't be used by bad actors to silence dissent? Genuine question if you have an answer but I don't think anyone actually does. The only actual counter to propaganda is quality education, which is where the US has been failing dramatically.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Is "MAGAtard" okay to say on Lemmy without getting banned? It's not a slur against mentally challenged people FFS, it's a slur against MAGA. I think MAGAt is a poor substitute.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If you have to ask, you probably already know the answer. You can insult them without playing off of a slur for another group.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago

Good and screw the neo-Nazi who found the fuck out.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago

Thots and pears.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Trump was never on your side, now you're finding out the hard way :|

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