There a page in project 2025 against overtime! Imagine that!
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Plus more scattered throughout. Here's just some of the obvious quotes about it
DOL should clarify that a home office is not subject to OSHA regulations and that time to set up a home office is not compensable time or eligible for overtime calculations
They want to remove overtime pay for work from home
Congress should amend the NLRA to authorize collective bargaining to treat national employment laws and regulations as negotiable defaults. For example, this reform would allow a union to bless a relaxed overtime trigger (e.g., 45 hours a week, or 80 hours over two weeks)
Allowing labor laws to be negotiable is going to be used by companies to given worse labor contracts to unions and is a blatant attempt to weaken their power
You'd think Unions would just reject that bullshit, but then Teamsters is .... probably fully on board.
The Teamsters, who're unabashably using bureaucratic obstruction and strict compliance to refuse to cross picket lines.
Here's what I don't get.
He's incredibly consistent, not paying contractors, or employees. Or paying fractions of what the contract actually stipulated.
I don't get why any contractor would work for him. any contractor that works with trump is going to get fucked over. its how he operates.
The world is full of incredible idiots. If your megaphone is big enough you can find one for just about anything you need.
I was unaware of just how true this is until Trump became president
Funnily enough, this far along into his political career you'd imagine most of the contractors he's able to hire are his fan base.
"He wouldn't screw me over, of course, because I'm one of the good ones"
Same reason anyone votes for him, I guess. He fucked all them over too.
He's essentially a con man, and there's a sucker born every day.
He didn't have to admit it. Anyone that's been paying attention to him for the last 30 some years knows that he's a con man that doesn't pay his bills.
Unfortunately it seems that the people who rally for him didn’t research him and alway think anything bad said about him is made up. This may actually help show them he really doesn’t like the working class.
Either they think it’s made up, or they just convince themselves that the face-eating leopard ”surely wouldn’t eat my face.”
I've been following this POS since late 80s, Grifters are going to grift and con men are going to con.
He doesn't need to show them. He's already said, "I don't care about you. I just want your vote."
How is this shocking to anyone? He owes millions of dollars.
Trump: I WILL FUCK YOU ALL UP THE ASS!
crowd: CHEERS
Trump: I THINK YOU'RE ALL TRASH AND I WISH I COULD THROW YOU ALL IN A GIANT POOL OF ACID
crowd: ERUPTS WITH APPROVAL
Trump: I WILL EAT YOUR CHILDREN
crowd: CHEERS WILDLY AND THROW BABIES IN THE AIR
You jest but make the "you" illegal immigrants and this becomes his "I Have a Dream" speech.
He's notorious for not paying people. He purposely chose small contractors to help build and do work on his properties, then would say they did terrible work and he wasn't going to pay them. He knew they wouldn't be able to afford to take him to court to get the money owed.
He's a successful businessman, he does indeed run the country exactly like he runs his businesses: stiff the people doing the work for him, divert the funds towards his nepotism clique, bleed the company dry until bankruptcy, and move on to do the exact same thing again because when you're a star, they let you do it.
Love to hear ol’ Teamster guy’s thoughts on this.
You mean the guy who didn't endorse anyone? I think it was clear that the higher ups would've liked to endorse Harris, but too many of the rank and file members support trump. I don't think this'd move the needle much.
Members who support Trump will never hear this story so it won't change their mind.
The Teamsters Guy did not endorse Trump, he used the platform to directly address the working class. If you listen to a speech he called people like Trump and the entire party out for who they are, called the entire duopoly out for who they are,
List of sources quoted in this list of "push back:
- A group called "Republicans against Trump" which seems to just be this twitter account with a buymeacoffee link which posted "Republicans could choose this man to represent them, instead they preferred a corrupt racist buffoon with no morals. The party deserves a humiliating defeat in 2020." In May 2020, making me suspect they're not actually Republican or possibly a group at all.
- "A Republican accountability group called American Bridge 21st Century" which is described on Wikipedia as "a liberal American Super PAC that supports Democratic candidates and opposes Republican candidates.".
- The American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial Organizations
- A "popular liberal commentator"
- A Democratic Representative
- The White House political director
So if you were hoping for actual consequences from his base or even just someone new and noteworthy criticizing him, this is not the article for you. I'm glad the Trade Unions are going to spread the word though, that will be a good thing.
I despise Donald as much as any other sane person, but Raw Story is garbage.
I despise Trump. I want him to lose. This kind of "journalism" needs to die so that the real stories about him don't get buried by half truths and lies. Trump says enough shitty, faschist things that we don't need to twist his words like this.
Trump said that he hates paying people overtime so, if they're getting close to overtime, he brings other people in. He does what every business does and implements shifts. He didn't say that he screws people out of overtime pay for time they worked. He avoids overtime pay by bringing in a new shift of workers.
How often Trump stiffs his employees and contractors for real is a good story. This story is essentially a lie that attempts to portray Trump badly but really only makes "the left" look bad.
Don't lie and ruin the credibility of left-leaning media. Use the real ammo that Trump drops like bread crumbs everywhere he goes.
Him screwing over workers IS journalism that works against him. His bullshit "man of the people" shtick and trying to reform the GOP as pro-labor is in direct contrast to him screwing people over.
Christ, you need to take a break.
I know that he does screw over employees, but how is that the case in this circumstance? He is sending workers home before they hit overtime and bringing in a different shift of workers. Every business does that. Every business attempts to minimize the amount of overtime that they pay. In fact, that's the point of overtime laws, to disincentivize working employees too many hours.
I'm not defending him as a person. I'm saying this is shitty journalism that just gives him something additional to point at when he says that the media lies about him. We shouldn't be giving him that ammo.
The American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial Organizations, the national trade union center known as AFL-CIO, said in response, "This isn’t a gaffe and he didn’t just misspeak — Trump said this in Michigan on Friday and Pennsylvania today. Trump cut overtime for millions of Americans as President — and his Project 2025 agenda will do it again."
That says it all. It's right there in the article. Now, if you're saying its "totally legal, and totally cool" what he's doing and admitting to, then that's your own opinion. A fuck ton of other absolutely hate it and think it's bullshit, which validates this reporting being out there.
Again, let me preface this by saying that I do not like Trump and think that he is terrible for the country. I'm just saying that he says enough awful shit that we don't need to twist the truth or lie.
Okay, two things here. First, the statement that Trump "cut overtime for millions of Americans as President" has been rated as "Mostly False" by PolitiFact.
PolitiFact ruling: Mostly False. When contacted for comment, the Harris-Walz campaign pointed to news articles showing that former President Barack Obama proposed to extend overtime pay eligibility to more workers, but a judge blocked it in November 2016, just before it was slated to take effect. The Trump administration did not challenge the judge’s ruling and instead set its own overtime rule, which extended overtime pay to millions fewer people than Obama’s rule would have done.
The Obama rule was not in effect at the time Trump took office, so Trump’s administration did not cut an existing benefit.
Second, that's not even what this article is about. This is about him saying the following:
I know a lot about overtime. I hated to give overtime. I hated it. I'd get ... I shouldn't say this ... I'd get other people in. I wouldn't pay. I hated it.
So, what does he say there? He hated paying overtime so he would bring in new people to take over the work. He didn't stiff them. He sent them home after working a full shift and brought in new people to take over.
Now, he may have (probably did) stiff workers in other ways. This is not evidence of that.
It could definitely could be interpreted that way. Liberals are so out of touch they don't realize that that's the point of overtime. To make employers hire more people instead of just pushing their current staff more and more.
Who the fuck didn’t know that already? This dude is notorious for not paying anyone for like the last 40+ years.
That's called SMART BUSINESS!
-Republicans who got Ripped Off by Trump!
Man of the people. Such a populist, this elitist billionaire is....
bUt He’S sUcH A gOoD bUsSiNeSsmAn!
He has done it for so long he really thinks that is what you are supposed to do. I was completely done with him when I read what he did to the people who built that casino all those years ago. He ruined lives and never once has he thought or cared about it. Its not something he is capable of.
Somehow his supporters will believe he only means no overtime pay for black people, not good patriots like them.
Oh, it gets better! Glad to see these new "shocking" reports that surprises nobody at all.
I fucking hate defending this piece of shit, but what he's saying isn't "they worked overtime and I refused to pay them."
He said: "I hated to give overtime. I hated it. I shouldn't say this, but I'd get other people in. I wouldn't pay."
So he's doing the scumbag, but legal, thing of "you're about to hit overtime so don't come in/continue working. Someone else will finish/cover your shift." Because as we all know he's a cheap piece of shit.
"The media" aren't doing themselves any favors by misleading people with the way the wrote this. It just adds to the Magoos hatred and belief that they're being lied to by everyone other than Trump and Faux News... Fucking morons everywhere... Magoos and media assholes alike. Gotta get them clicks though, who cares about the impact...
I don't think people are upset because he broke the law, that's a separate ref flag, they're upset because he did whatever he could to reduce wages for ordinary Americans and boost profits for himself. It's shitty and he's saying it out loud.
It just makes the media lose credibility, which is why we are here in the first place.
So he admits to being a thief.
Fascist Bojangles jerking the air cocks with them tiny hands
Thank you sir, may I have another
His supporters should go ear-diaper again and refuse to get paid for their work
I read that as "Unreal: massive push back after Trump admitted he sniffed his workers at latest rally." The funny thing is I was like yeah sounds about right...stiffed is even better though lol
The GOP paints a beautiful picture of our future. /s It is just sad that this race is even close. It is sickening that a large amount of our population supports this.
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