Somehow, I can tolerate "jpheg" much easier than the forsaken "jif."
this post was submitted on 27 Nov 2023
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Jif is where it's at. Peanut butter and image format? Yes please
But Jif in Australia is a cleaning solution - can we have different pronunciations based on country?
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The creators literally referenced this early on "choosy devs choose gif" like the jiff peanut butter commercial.
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"Jif" is the original pronunciation. It is a pun, a play on the word "jif" short for "jiffy" meaning a short amount of time, as in "I'll send it to you in a gif". The newer pronunciation has become popular based on the fallacious reasoning that an acronym should be pronounced the same as its constituent words, which isn't a thing at all.
Language evolves, and both pronunciations are common enough to be considered acceptable. The only way to be wrong about how to pronounce the word is to claim one of the pronunciations is wrong.
Become popular? It's been popular roughly for the lifespan of the format. It's hardly language's fault the developer wanted to make an unfunny reference to a since forgotten peanut butter slogan.
On the other hand linguistics indicate a hard g sound with the construction of the word, constituent words aside. Plenty of four letter words starting with the gi combo have a hard g, including but not limited to gift which you may notice is very similarly constructed.
Whatever else the English language may throw at us, people appreciate consistency because we can make some sense of the world. A hard g is the consistent, predictable, sensible choice for the limited availability of those virtues English offers.
There exists other words that start with gi but use the soft g, gin for example. But regardless, the pronunciation of one word is not determined by the pronunciation of other unrelated words.
But regardless, the pronunciation of one word is not determined by the pronunciation of other unrelated words.
In English? Yes. In other, more structured and sane languages? No.
Become popular? It's been popular roughly for the lifespan of the format.
I'm gonna stop you there, because I've been using the format for about 30 years, and people only started using the new pronunciation in the last 10-15.
Everything you said about linguistics is entirely crap. English is not a proscriptive language. English linguistics doesn't indicate anything at all. It is descriptive, and is anything but consistent. There are no rules about word construction or pronunciation. Words are pronounced the way they are understood, and if you are understood then you have pronounced them correctly.
You could argue that the original pronunciation is archaic, like "encyclopaedia," but the problem there is that the word itself is like 35 years old, and there are people like me who have been using the word since there was only one acceptable pronunciation who aren't likely to change.
I’m gonna stop you there, because I’ve been using the format for about 30 years, and people only started using the new pronunciation in the last 10-15.
I've been using the word since the mid 90s and it's always been hard G for me.
I don't say that to suggest that you or anyone else are wrong to say it with a soft G (although my brain cringes each time I hear it), but since I don't think I invented the hard G pronunciation I think claiming it's a recent thing is a fallacious argument against the hard G.
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It's pronounced Gif, with a soft G as in Graphics.
I don't give a fuck what the idiot creator thinks it should be pronounced as, I'll die on this hill with my honor intact, surrounded by the corpses of everyone who thinks Jif is referring to anything but peanut butter.
You say soft g when you mean hard g. Hard g's include GOAT, game, dragon, and gangster. And gif.
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Helen is wearing socks with sandals. Helen don't give a single phuck.
Why use C and K in socks when they are pronounced the same?
New spelling: Sokks
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GIF is pronounced GIF not because the G stands for Graphical, but because it is its essence. It is what is calls out to be... Called.
And because it's not peanut butter.
And for the same reason, JPEG is pronounced JFEG not because the P stands for Photographic, but because that is the expression of its true essence.
I just didn't know it before today.
Justice for JΦEG!
Also, "gi" in english makes the hard g sound very often, like in gift, or give, or giddy. You need to do some real mental gymnastics to justify it as a j sound
The giant ginger biologist originally apologized for being allergic to ginseng.
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Say gift. Now what you're going to do next is leave out the T but enunciate the gif part the same way. Fuck you jif people!
I'll tell the agile fragile fugitive gin-drinking giraffes eating ginger ginseng to imagine gingerly using their digits to engineer a geological survey of the gist of your comment. They ate too much gingerbread and now have gingivitis, so the margins of those attracted to religion aren't as rigid as the original origins of those of that region and we have to remain vigilant lest magic supersede logic, which of course would be terrible for legislation of the legions.
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Say gigantic. Now what you're going to do next is stop with your ANTICs and enunciate the gig the same way.
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Gif is obviously pronounced like the g's in 'gorgeous'
Egregious!
Honestly have never understood the gif debate. Words sometimes have multiple pronunciations. They're both fine.
it's an acronym (as opposed to initialisms, which are not pronounced as a single word). There is no rule on pronunciation.
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We don't do this for any other acronym. There is no rule about the pronunciation. It's arbitrary. The creator chose "jif", so that's the "canonical" one.
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GIF comes from the Old English word "gif," pronounced with a "y" sound.
So it's yif.
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do I look like I know what a "JphEg" is?
I just want a picture of a got dang hot dog
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If you have to spell it wrong to show how you pronounce it that should be a sighn
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Git is now pronounced Jit.
JIT, as in the compiler architecture, is now pronounced Git.
Guys.. guys... can we all just agree that it's pronounced gif and not gif?
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So now Fish=Ghoti is being applied to spoken acronyms? In that case it's all out nuclear war.
All of this could be solved if English weren't a shit language with incoherent phonemes.
All this could be solved if people would accept that English changes over time and if defined by usage and understanding.
If people easily understand what I mean when I say gif then I have pronounced it correctly. Same as if people understand what I mean if I use "literally" to mean "figuratively" or spell "island" with an 's' despite it having no Latin roots.
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The J is pronounced like the J in Jesus (Spanish pronunciation)
We should just go ahead and pronounce all acronyms the way their unabbreviated forms’ first syllable letters are said. Just ignore we treat individual letters differently than the words they came from.
The CIA should sound like “see ya” Department of Transportation “Duht” Internal Revenue Service “ears”
Etc.
CIA is an initialism, not an acronym, since you pronounce each letter individually.
What you sir are suggesting is a complete erasure of initialisms, and I will not stand for it.
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Helen wears socks and sandals, and has divergent opinions. Helen needs to disappear in a landfill. Dispatching a team.
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I love how much absolute war is going on in this thread 🤣
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