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He told the New York Times that he thinks the U.S. will “very likely” find itself in a three-front war with China, Russia, and Iran. As a result, he said, the Pentagon should continue developing autonomous weapons at full speed, pointing to big mismatches in how far the U.S. would be willing to go while fighting a war compared with other countries.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He's also got plenty of financial incentive to say shit like that. War on all 3 of those fronts would be so untenable with the state of things and he knows that which is why he's advocating for more drones but really? How realistic is that? China's drones are at least as advanced as ours

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

We have the arsenal to win all 3 wars almost instantly. Until now, no leader was stupid enough to take that route, but we have Trump.

Don't try to logic this situation with reasonable military tactics.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Define win because I’m pretty sure it doesn’t mean what you think it means.

The only tactic with “almost instant” results would be the US just nuking everything, which A. is definitely not a “win” by any definition, and B. is an insanely irresponsible assumption that there wouldn’t be substantial collateral damage and that’s if you were inhumane enough to ignore the lives of everyone living in the targeted countries to begin with.

Or somehow do you think the US could win a conventional war against three separate countries “almost instantly”, after it took 2 decades to make absolutely no lasting changes in Afghanistan? In which case just lol.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If Trump authorizes nuclear strikes on Russia, China and Iran, it is the secret services patriotic duty to put a pewpew seed in the old rooster's noggin.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

That line’s already been crossed and nobody has done a thing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

Whoever launches nuclear weapons definitely loses and drags their economic allies down with them.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I wouldn't call global nuclear annihilation 'winning'.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Trump would, and he has the keys.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I believe they are referring to a far blunter instrument of death which would only purvey loss on a scale that is unprecedented and difficult to imagine.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Again, as the other respondent pointed out, the overwhelmingly likely end result of a nuclear exchange is hardly a “win” for any party.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Oh yeah, I just finished editing to add that part to be more clear of my opinion on the subject. There will never again be a nuclear “win” in human history, and in truth I wouldn’t even count the first.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

No you don´t. You couldn´t win in Vietnam or Afghanistan, the latter with the help of NATO (Rmember, srticle 5 was invoked by the US, and some of us European deeply regret to have helped and sent our soldiers die for the US).

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't be absurd, you most definitely do not have that. You have the arsenal to ensure mutual destruction between you and your nuclear armed enemies.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

And the rest of the world 20x over thanks to pissing matching snow flakes.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'd rather fight a one front war against palantir

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

What makes him think we're going to fight Russia? Mango Mussolini loves Russia.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah Hitler “loved” Russia for a minute too

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

In some sense our large contributions to Ukraine earlier in the war could be seen as us fighting Russia via proxy. If I recall correctly our involvement with conflicts in Syria were also seen similarly, as us fighting a Russian proxy state. My understanding is that war between nuclear powers often looks like this because all out war could escalate to nuclear weapons too quickly. All this to say, I think we were already at war with Russia before Trump regained office.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Not to mention China seems to choose the most economical decision it seems. They care about Taiwan strictly because of money. There is no economic growth for them from fighting the U.S.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

I disagree about Taiwan. That's a thing that goes back to the founding of modern China, it is, and has been a cornerstone of their policy. But otherwise ya, they seem to make rational economic choices.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

That is so false.

China routinely hamstrings its industry with burdensome government involvement.

And they act out like raging toddlers. Look at how poorly they managed integrating HK because they wanted to rush it with force.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Also they're in no shape to fight

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

10 months ago*

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago

Lunatics are truly running the asylum.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, George Dubbya kinda let this one slip back in the 2000s.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Yes he did, the New World Order plans.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Because 3 way wars are easy to win.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Especially when one of the opponents has several times our population and all opponents are oceans away, besides two of the three being nuclear armed and the third being close. Even with the size of our military, I don't think that's a war we would stand a reasonable chance in.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Imo, we are fucked. Ukraine drones show that our aircraft carriers, planes, and tanks are worthless when a 1000 dollar drone can carry munitions to cripple them.
It's a new world and we aren't prepared for it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I wasn't even thinking about that kind of thing, since drones are something I'm sure we could utilize as well. It's mostly the sheer production capacity and population that China in particular has. I expect an actual large scale war against them, that both didn't turn nuclear (since that renders the whole concept of a victor a bit moot) and wasn't some very quick defensive action like an attempt to defend Taiwan might be (which might end fast enough for production capacity to not matter as much as existing inventory), would end up looking something like Japan's war against the US during ww2: we might be able to cause a great deal of damage to their military assets at first, but if they can replace their losses much faster than we can, then all they have to to is drag things out enough for the numbers to swing decisively in their favor.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

The United States military strength has, until very recently, been focused on the ability to successfully prosecute war on two major fronts and one minor front.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

They are with a nuclear arsenal. And Trump is stupid enough to use it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Especially ones with no obvious win conditions

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

The US could probably take on Russia and Iran without much effort, but isn't China's military actually comparable to the US'?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

China considers itself a regional power, and doesn't delude itself into calling itself a world power like Russia does. So it's unlikely they'd direct any strikes at CONUS if a war broke out. They would instead try to force all US/allied influences out of their sphere of influence and just play the defensive game until some kind of peace could be negotiated.

They have aspirations to become a global power in the next century and possibly could do it, the real question is do they intend to share the stage with the US or find ways to erode US power down to regional power and rise up to take their place?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

I think that if a war was to break out, it would be like US vs Japan in WW2. Except we would be Japan and China would be the US.

The Japanese had superior weapons and ships, but were unable to replace losses in a timely fashion, leading to being dominant in the beginning of the war, but once the US manufacturing base started producing weapons and ships, the Japanese were quickly overwhelmed and unable to keep up.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

So the guy who runs the AI intelligence corporation thinks the West is morally superior to the degree that more amoral, barbarous countries like China and Russia and Iran have some advantage over us.

Like it's just sensitive and soft westerners fighting against robotic Asians and Russians. Iranians are so evil compared to us: they're willing to use nukes!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Psychopaths

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

He says shit like this to juice his stock and defense contracts.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If we can't clean up Iran quickly there's gonna be a no front war because China will roll us

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And at home, America will eventually fight against America.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

No, America will fight against traitors.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Lol nah, China is winning by a long margin in this neo-capitalistic world, no way they are going to war against US. They have all the time in the world to regain Taïwan.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Ridiculous. There is no possible way that HitlerPig will go to war against Russia. What is far more likely, is that he abandons NATO, and signs a pact with Russia, China, and North Korea.

As a show of good faith, we will surrender Taiwan to China, and Alaska to Russia (establishing a Russian military presence in our hemisphere, on our landmass), and in exchange, we can have Canada and Mexico.

HitlerPig would consider that a good deal.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Thank God I have severe sleep apnea.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Something something BRICS

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