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[–] [email protected] 6 points 27 minutes ago

Almost every problem america has to day, you could blame on Reagan.

And you would be right far, far, faaaar more often than you'd be wrong.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 minutes ago* (last edited 6 minutes ago)

thank him for no-brakes neoliberalism. i wish this piece of shit had only ruined his own shitty country but instead we were forced into his insane bullshit too.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

Did anyone else know that they recently made a film about this fucking filth?

They were obviously trying way too hard to control the narrative of this fucking piece of shit, but to also spark some kind of patriotism in all those old fucks who fell for reagan's bullshit lies, and now trump's bullshit lies.

I almost wanted to go and rip their little signs they had for this movie straight out of the ground. Ugh. Disgusting.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Looking at the IMDb listing, is this shedding Reagan in a good light?

Or is it a documentary on how he completely fucked up?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

Dennis Quaid is a piece of shit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago

How dare you talk like this about the republicans Jesus? And they are still selling less taxes one the 1% cause they create jobs 😅

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

On one hand, it does make sense to lower taxes if taxes are notably harming the economy or harming economic recovery, and under Reagan we DID have a long economic boom. Dropping taxes on the rich by 40% was likely unnecessary, as even ~20% would have been enough for a stable recovery.

The flip side to that is that it installed in Republicans the idea that taxes go down == economy go up, which is nowhere near the truth (as shown by the Kansas Experiment ) and is one of (IMO) the three major shifts in the GOP that has turned them into the absolute shitters they are today. The others FWIW are Gingrich's Contract with America, or more particularly the idea he presented to the GOP that they can never let the DNC have a win even if it would benefit the GOP, and the Southern Strategy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago

Trickle down economics, contract with America, and the southern strategy. The new unholy trinity.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

He really didn't though, it was fake and funded through over a trillion dollars in national debt ...

I'm pretty sure he's the president that also started using money ear marked for social security for the general fund. SS is fully funded through Miss 2030, the Republicans want to get rid of it to hide the fact they stole the money for other shit ..

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

“National debt” obscures the practical consequence. National debt is just money that has been added into the economy but not taxed back out.

It’s not necessarily bad to ramp up spending, if that new money has somewhere healthy to go. (Mega projects like Medicare For All or the Green New Deal would be prime candidates.)

So where did it go?

Well, take a look at Reagan’s reign from 81-89…

There’s the problem.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 hours ago

...and this chart stops at 2012

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

precisely. the distribution of wealth is a more important indicator of economic health than simply looking at the national debt or total tax revenues. imo we need to increase taxes on the ultra rich, not because we need to reduce the deficit but because taxes prevent the obscene accumulation of wealth (and the resulting regulatory capture epitomized by modern American oligarchy).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago

Reaganomics! SMH.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

And he sold those missiles because Congress had made it illegal to fund rape/murder squads in Nicaragua.

The money was off the books and then sent to the death squads killing innocent farmers.

Unlike Nixon, Congress was not willing to impeach, so Regan denied everything and only a few staffers were prosecuted.

Bush Sr pardoned them.

Republicans: not even once.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

They also were smuggling Crack into the states to fund the contras (who are terrorists)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

And Oliver North's gold remains buried under a home in Langley

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 hours ago

Leeja Miller on Youtube has a great video about how shitty Reagan was. She also has REAGAN RUINED EVERYTHING t-shirts! https://youtu.be/l7dHvqA-WB4

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

And don't forget ending the fairness doctrine, one of the contributions to the polarization of US politics.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 minutes ago

That's a big one

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

"Ronnie Raygun

Perhaps the most charismatic leader of recent times, Ronnie is completely out of touch with reality. He started his career as an organ grinder. Ronnie's partner was a super-intelligent chimpanzee, named Nancy, that he rescued from a genetic research lab. The chimp ran every aspect of Ronnie's life, the superior intellect clearly asserting itself. Nancy wanted revenge against genetic researchers and forced Ronnie to run for national office. Soon after Ronnie assumed power, Nancy died, leaving Ronnie without guidance. Under Ronnie's tenuous grasp, his country no longer heads anywhere."

"Warmonger

This is a straight-forward personality. Warmongers will be your friends so long as you help them nuke their enemies. Use wimpy propaganda or attack them or one of their friends, and they will happily nuke you until only swirling, radioactive dust clouds inhabit your cities.

The two Warmongers are Ronnie Raygun and Prime Minister Satcher, and they are both relatively easy to control."

(https://www.lemonamiga.com/games/docs.php?id=1157)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

This comic of Subnormality seems to fit this humor style.

https://www.viruscomix.com/page513.html

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

Indeed very fitting! Thank you

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

Libs showing their fascist imperialism even when trying to distance from themselves from their right-wing allies. Crying about iran while supporting genocide. How much did reagan send to the zio regime?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

History has a liberal bias if you care to read instead of listen to TV all day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

If they're saying "lib" and not "liberal", then it's sure not from American TV.

And you're paraphrasing a television character.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 49 minutes ago (1 children)

Am American, and "lib" is used every day by MAGA on social media. Just go to X and scroll for a whole couple seconds to see overwhelming proof it's a MAGA culture war talking point.

I'm not against shitting on liberals either, but there's clearly a much bigger world wide problem of private equity Fascism that needs solved, and liberals have already been fighting that enemy (albeit not winning that fight). This makes them your friend whether you like it or not.

But solidarity isn't going to happen if you're too busy complaining about liberal bullshit to fight with them when needed instead.

Nazis are now in the White House and a Fox News host commands the biggest army in the world.

And that wasn't even the first 90 days of this dumpster fire.

So I'd rather spend the little time we have left before polical arrests happen to work together than spend time bitching about the history of our possible allies.

I voted for Biden, and was deeply critical of his team. But without question he would be a better President now than Trump is.

Imo words critical of liberals in the US are wasted. Trump will be far more critical of them in the long run, so I'd rather spend my time making allies instead of grandstanding while they're being publicly admonished.

The next step is them getting arrested, so the time for making allies isn't long.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 minutes ago

Am American, and "lib" is used every day by MAGA on social media. Just go to X

That's not on TV then, and no I will not go on X. Here on Lemmy, "lib" is used overwhelmingly by leftists. This person complaining about imperialism and right-wing allies is not regurgitating MAGA culture.

Making allies is a great idea. We're not going to make allies by accusing them of watching TV (like Stephen Colbert) all day.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago

A lot? Israel was the middleman for the missile sales, they got a nice paycheck from Ronnie.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago

He was president of the Screen Actor's Guild; a solid union man. /s

The point is, functioning unions are necessary to keep the economy working in the public interest. But not all unions are interested in doing that.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 hours ago

To quote the poet Killer Mike: " I'm glad Reagans dead"

[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 hours ago

Don't forget his campaign for governor led to the massive student loan issues we have today. College was just starting to be accessible to everyone that wasn't a white man, and they just couldn't have that!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

And even better... he was a Christian.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Was he Christian tho? Or did he just tell people he was?

Seems like it’s in the political playbook to claim you’re a Christian to gain all the support of people who lack critical thought.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Well, the beauty of Christianity is that you get to choose what it means, so yes. Definitely was a Christian.

[–] [email protected] 109 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (4 children)

The deinstitutionalization and movement to prison was something that began long before Reagan. Really goes back to the end of ww2 and Kennedy. though reagan definitely accelerated it by a great deal by decreasing budgets substantially and increasing incarceration rates significantly

Reagan was a monster though. What a great day it was when he died

[–] [email protected] 1 points 42 minutes ago (1 children)

He wasn't elected until 1980. Look at your graphs again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 minutes ago

Yes, the massive fall of deinstitutionalization began in the 60s as indicated on my graph? And as I said it began long before him? I don’t understand what you are disagreeing with

Even the incarceration rise started before him in the early 70s. He just is the one that turned this to a million with the war on drugs

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

TBH, some of that deinstitutionalization could be written off to being gay no longer being a mental health issue, etc.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

That’s actually inverse to this. Homosexuality formally entered the dsm in 1952 which made institutionalization for it more common, not less, although institutionalization certainly existed beforehand (eg ww2 draft would decline for homosexuality and basically refer to conversion therapy)

This is the “lavender scare”. Much of the anti lgbt rhetoric today roots back to this era - that homosexuality is something to be pathologized, it can be cured, it is deviancy, a threat to national safety (lavender scare and red scare being analogous, thought process being all the men turning queer would make us a nation of sissies ripe for being taken over by the commies, basically. Lesbian erasure from this narrative was totally a thing (although they still got the abusive treatment)

As a result they got shock treatment, aversion therapy, and even lobotomies. This was through the early 60s and it wasn’t until 1973 that the diagnosis was formally removed. Obviously conversion therapy still happens today but the state sanctioned institutionalization form was mostly over by the mid to late 60s, though it took some time to die out in certain regions

A blight on our country and on the history of our mental health system. Disgusting

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The shock treatment thing never fully went away it's just used on gay teenagers at concentration camps their parents send them to now as opposed to being a state ran thing

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Yes conversion therapy never fully went away although some states have banned it and others have banned the use of shock as aversive despite allowing conversion therapy to continue

To clarify: there are several things people refer to as shock therapy

Ect or electro convulsive therapy is sometimes called shock therapy. This is not conversion therapy. This is evidence based for treatment resistant depression and bipolar disorder. This has an ugly history but the modern version can be very helpful if you’ve had years of no success with treatment. That said this should be something that you discuss and consent to

Conversion therapy is a form of Aversive conditioning. Shock therapy in this context is using electricity as the aversive stimulus. This is a behavioral conditioning technique to pair stimuli. It is theoretically simple and essentially based on the work of Pavlov. I take a thing you like and consistently pair it with something aversive. Eventually you associate the thing with the aversive.

So I may show you gay pornography and give an electric shock. But any aversive can theoretically work: I could show you two screens: gay pornography on one and gory death shit on the other. I could get one of those air horns and blast it to surprise you. Etc. modern conversion therapy goes way harder than this, they’ll do weird fucking shit like put a pressure sensing ring on your cock and show you hot guys, then introduce the aversive when you tingle.

Do you see the issue here? They believe they are making gay pornography aversive to you. But what’s really happening is that they are making expression of sexuality aversive. In the weenie monitor example it becomes getting an erection. This is because the people doing this are not only monsters, they are shitty at their job. They do not understand (or more likely willfully misunderstand) basic risks of what they are implementing and they also do not plan for basic realities like generalization (eg if I make homosexual erotic content aversive to you what’s to stop you generalizing that disgust to all erotic content? That’s a risk they’re willing to take, apparently, and a part of informed consent I bet money they do not explain (amongst many many other things))

Conversion therapy is torture. Aversive conditioning in general is. Anyone who does it should be in prison. They are monsters who care more about their agenda than their clients well being (which they likely do not care about at all)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

True, although nasty Christians are going to court to try to overturn bands on conversion therapy because it's their religion so they shouldn't have to follow the law. Yeah that's where at is a country. And people wonder why I have a firmly negative opinion of Christianity and don't buy the excuses people give and it's defense

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

i think executive order 10450 was the last vestige of this era to be removed from our governing bodies and it lasted until 2016; 2 years after it bit me in the ass.

i also think that this was the reason why we didn't enact the equal rights amendment; to keep access to this kind prejudice alive as evidenced by the incrementalism that project 2025 advocated since the '80s.

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