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St. Louis Mayor Cara Spencer told MSNBC on Monday that FEMA had yet to assist after the city was ravaged by a tornado days prior.

The tornado first touched down in St. Louis on Friday. The storm — reportedly 20 miles in length at its strongest — killed at least five people in St. Louis County at the time of writing. Spencer reported during a press conference that 38 people had been injured, and that number was expected to increase as recovery efforts continued.

Friday’s tornado was one of many that affected the region over the weekend, with Kentucky also being hit by storms. At the time of writing, dozens of the dead had already been found.

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

America will figure it out eventually

Everyone is on their own

Unless you're a billionaire ... your government has abandoned you

[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I lost my house to a forest fire when I was a kid and the help we got was literally life saving. This time around I'm already stockpiling dry food and water. Also been getting a bunch of work done on my car so it's as reliable as possible just in case I need to leave in a hurry. Got my "oh shit" bag ready to go in my car too with some extra water and food in the trunk. I live in an area that's prone to forest fires and flash floods so I'm not really taking any chances for when shit hits the fan. Usually I'd call this overkill but I don't think that applies this time around knowing that no one is coming to help.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I suggest setting up a small NAS on the way to the garage and backing stuff up on it regularly, that way when you need to go, just unplug it and put it in your car, and you have a backup of your data should the shit hit the fan.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

I very much like the sentiment, but I’d mostly advocate for a data backup that doesn’t require any particular effort or memory to preserve in an emergency.

Obviously everyone’s personal situation varies, but as a simple default I usually recommend that friends and family simply use whichever cloud drive service is available from the device manufacturer that stores their photos (ie, google Drive, Microsoft one drive, or Apple iCloud). Photos are almost always the most irreplaceable digital asset, storage is typically just a few bucks a month, and using the “default” provider usually requires zero skill, effort, or recurring action. Other than making sure you can afford the auto-debit each month, your backs are mostly foolproof.

Cons include a dependency on a cloud service, which has a recurring charge and a privacy impact. The charge is typically minor vs the cost of a NAS or similar, and most services have some privacy assurances that may be enough to ease your concern. Nobody will ever care as much about your backups as you, but in aggregate a team of skilled full time FAANG engineers is often a more robust administrator than a solo customer.

If you have the desire and resources, you could and should do both backups, or as many as you reasonably can manage in as many places as possible.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Cons include a dependency on a cloud service, which has a recurring charge and a privacy impact. The charge is typically minor vs the cost of a NAS or similar, and most services have some privacy assurances that may be enough to ease your concern.

With how places like the USA are degrading right now, the privacy impact is increasingly huge. Having a photo in your archive that could be flagged by an ML filter automatically as doing something now deemed "illegal" like having the wrong skin color is bad.

As for cost, you'd be surprised in that a few years of cloud or less can easily cost as much as a small NAS that can last a decade.

I'd advocate people learn how to preserve their data themselves, it is a good skill to have, and it helps strengthen data education in a time when Tech Bro companies want people as dumb and reliant on their tech as possible.

Easy enough to follow guides or ask an AI to set up a sync with another similar box at someone else's house in a different city or state to have an offsite copy.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

60% of Missouri voters support fascism, war crimes, sex offenders, and domestic terrorists loose in their country.

https://www.cnn.com/election/2024/results/missouri

33% of Missouri residents were too lazy to show up and vote. A tantamount approval of the destruction of themselves, their families, friends, and Ukraine.

https://www.sos.mo.gov/CMSImages/ElectionResultsStatistics/Nov2024OfficialVoterTurnout.pdf

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

St. Louis voted overwhelmingly for Kamala.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And all their electoral votes went to Trump ...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

Which is a complaint about the electoral college, not STL voters. STL voted for a strong FEMA. But the city is getting trashed on both sides because conservatives hate them for being liberal, while liberals hate them for being in a conservative state.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago

Which is why they're not getting the requested aid... Well, actually, the local emergency manager has to make the disaster declaration to the state and have all their local and mutual aid resources exhausted. Then if the state approves a state disaster, the governor can request a presidential disaster declaration (PDD).

IF the cheeto agreed, that would free up a willing FEMA to respond to requests. However, we now have a FEMA Director that wants to eliminate the agency, so who knows. The whole thing is a shitshow.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Excuse me. We don’t do that anymore here in the United States. Grab those bootstraps and shut the fuck up peasants. If you didn’t deserve it, almighty god wouldn’t have thrown that tornado at you. Don’t be a drain on the state. Leader has deals to make. These bombs ain’t gonna just drop all on their own. Besides, they’re working on a glorious parade for you. What more do you want?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If I die I just want to die knowing my president had a sweet-ass jet.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Better yet, a sweet ass-jet

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Next up is wildfire season, floods, hurricanes, oh my.

[–] AsslessChaps 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sorry, that money was spent on two moist fighter jets.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Huh....wonder why that is. Must be a coincidence i guess

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Remember when Republicans were forming posses and threatening FEMA employees with guns during Milton and Helene and then the organization was gutted during the California fires?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Pepperidge Farms remembers!

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Republicans aren't giving aid to red as shit counties so unfortunately a blue county isn't going get anything unfortunately and knowing Republicans, they'll try to charge them for just reaching out.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Pretty sure FEMA no longer has the resources to help.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

No there will be no help for you. Suffer. This is what you voted for.

https://www.politico.com/2024-election/results/missouri/

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

St Louis City and County voted for Harris.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Some absolute bullshit for people to put rural maga nonsense on the suffering people of one of the most liberal cities in the US. Shits fucked up honestly. People in St Louis are derided by the maga nutjobs that run our state, and then by outside assholes too ignorant to know anything about our city in the first place. St Louis ISNT going to get FEMA assistance because its liberal. If it was Joplin again or some shit theyd have been there on Friday

When disaster comes for you, dont look at us to help…

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks for the well written reply. The people who have fought these far right nutjobs the most are the black folks in north St Louis City. They deal with every form of racism there is. North City folks are now suffering hard from a second massive storm, the tornado took the roofs, the storm last night flooded the houses and apartments.

So tired of ignorant takes generalizing about supposedly red states for an internet own. It only hurts our people more.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Goddamn there are some ignorant fucks in this thread.

I live in this shithole state (on the opposite side of St. Louis, but still), but 99% of the people I know here aren't conservative in the slightest. But that's not gonna stop people from blanket labelling the entire state as redneck hillbilly fascist fucks.

Please, do better and realize that St. Louis itself probably has most of the liberals in the state so you're attacking your own interests.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Unfortunately, the EC and Senate both mean that if 51% of voters in a state vote R, all other votes don't count. Here in California we have more redneck hillbilly fascist fucks than several of the red states combined, but they're outnumbered.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Sry, we don't use nuance here.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Have the day you voted for.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Just gonna put this out there, st Louis and much of the surrounding areas have large black communities. And between St Louis and Kansas city accounted for most of the votes for Biden and Democrats in the state. They didn't vote for this even if the empty land in the rest of the state did.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

And magats will celebrate.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How did Missouri vote again?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The cities always vote mostly blue. The rest of the state is what fucks everyone

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Thank you for this, STL went 81% for Harris. They don't deserve this, places like Jefferson City does.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

It just drives me up a wall when people go all red vs blue states. Even the most liberal states have a third of their votes for Trump. Massachusetts voted 36% Trump, much greater margin than people in STL, yet no one says places like MA deserve this. Heck Trump received a greater percent of votes in Boston than he did in STL.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, most states are pretty evenly purple when you actually get rid of the winner-takes-all map. Typically, the large cities go overwhelmingly blue while all of the hicks go overwhelmingly red. So the state’s balance is mostly based on the urban/rural divide.

It’s also why republicans have systematically been making it harder to vote in cities. Rural areas usually have no wait times for voting, because there are so few people. But urban areas can have wait times measuring 6-8 hours, because republicans have closed nearly all of the urban voting locations.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

Thoughts and prayers bitches.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

I haven't had breakfast. I may have to go down there and check it out. Because understanding the magnitude of hurricane damage is the responsibility of just random strangers. If only there was a government agency that some but not all of our taxes were used to fund...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

“Please FEMA come save us. Oh, you were defunded. How about just helping the whites? The straight ones. “ -MAGAcuck

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Worked well for Sanders...

...oh wait.

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